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  • Progrssive_Jedi
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    #21
    These seems to be two extremeS

    Those who absurdly thing GGG is A-side he's not, even if Canelo v Smith did bad, which if it's 62k we'll never hear the officials (although since GGG haters quote the 97k but don't use Glaser's numbers for any other fighter).

    The other side things GGG will have to take basically crap when this is the biggest fight in boxing. That's not gonna happen either.

    GGG POSITION

    GGG on the other hand first ppv was 125k. That's low, but put in perspectful of who the fighters were and that it was their first, it didn't lose money. Yet it was his first, so it's not a shock. He has not ridden on anyone's coat tails.

    CANELO REAL POSITION

    Although Canelo is an established ppv star, GGG is also a big star and is easily the most talked about fighter right now. Especially among hard core fight fans.
    Selling ppv is about having a fan base, Canelo had earned a hardcore Mexican fan base by both going on Floyds undercard and fighting so many ppv fights.

    However, Canelo isn't the star Floyd, Manny had been. He is the top ppv guy by default, because ppv for boxing is hurting anyways (hence a fight like Kov v Ward is poised to not even break 1m). Canelo did so low on the khan fight they refused to release the numbers. Anywhere from 300k to 450k. It wasn't a huge success. Rember that's is Floyd on a bad day.

    Canelo is under a lot of pressure to fight GGG soon and it's hurting him, even if he sold 50k in Texas. That's a lot but it's ha base. And he's supposed to be the new Floyd. So expectations are higher. He can't use money as an excuse unless GGG won't take a decent deal, and to most fans a 60/40 split seems equitable.

    He is under enormous pressure to fight GGG and nobody in the media is buying the "I made him an offer bull rap." Been there with Floyd and PAC, no one will buy it.

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    • Progrssive_Jedi
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      #22
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Golovkin is going to want 40% of that huge offer. He thinks he's the one that put 51,000 butts in the seats at that stadium.
      No he's just selling out wherever he goes, 25k here, 20k there. No one else Canelo can realistically fight but GGG is doing that.

      And K2/GGG have already won the Public Relations War. They know they are B-side, but they are not gonna have to take less than 70/30.

      If they demand A-side money they'll start to lose the PR battle, but I doubt they will considering their first offer was 60/40.

      Originally posted by Golovkin
      Loeffler and Gennady will have the final say, Mr. 62k will have to fight in the arena of our choosing. And I don't think it will be in Dallas so they'll have to beg or give us 60-40 because Gennady is the PPV star and THE 160 CHAMP. Mr. 62k has nothing.
      You know that's as about as likely as Trump telling the truth and winning the presidency.

      Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
      GGG can talk all he wants, but behind closed doors I would imagine his people know he's the B-side, and that they'll need to be realistic or the fight won't happen.
      They've already said they are, but they know taking a flat fee would be ******. They will likely settle for 70/30, but nothing

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      • Pain~Lucy
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        #23
        flat fee my a$$, one of the biggest name in boxing was offered a flat fee? lmao, lets be realistic here 60/40-70/30 will be the most realistic offer

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        • The Problem Child
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          #24
          Originally posted by Cinci Champ
          how can he have nothing to do with that when hes the most popular mexican fighter? ggg has fans in mexico as well but nothing like canelo and not to mention alot of ggg fans canelo is bringing to the table regardless with or without ggg. you cant just ignore his biggest fan base just because its convenient and easy for him come on now. mexican fans are the reason canelo is a bigger star then ggg both are big stars but canelo is in another stratosphere here in america where it truly matters
          Mexicans will flood anything Mexico related (specially if alcohol and partying are involved), they are proud people, they are proud of their nationality (moreso on the weekend they celebrate their indepence). Mr. 62k happens to benefit from that.
          Last edited by The Problem Child; 09-22-2016, 03:02 AM.

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          • The Problem Child
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            #25
            Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
            No he's just selling out wherever he goes, 25k here, 20k there. No one else Canelo can realistically fight but GGG is doing that.

            And K2/GGG have already won the Public Relations War. They know they are B-side, but they are not gonna have to take less than 70/30.

            If they demand A-side money they'll start to lose the PR battle, but I doubt they will considering their first offer was 60/40.



            You know that's as about as likely as Trump telling the truth and winning the presidency.



            They've already said they are, but they know taking a flat fee would be ******. They will likely settle for 70/30, but nothing
            I GUARANTEE you, Trump will win. I am a 100% sure of it.

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            • Cinci Champ
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              #26
              Originally posted by PAC-BOY
              Youre right and wrong...Canelo is a big draw for Mexican fans. Hes no DLH. Canelo hasnt crossed over....yet. He cant even speak English and all his long live Mexico rants after his fights are not gonna turn heads to make him bigger. Golvokin is right also...In The Texas Stadium on a Mexican holiday you can put Margarito in there with anyone and its gonna be a big event and the arena will be packed. His fans base is huge. So is GGG.
              ya but no one is saying GGG doesnt have a big fan base or isnt a star its just hes not near as big a star as canelo in mexico and usa where it really counts. ya ggg can go fight a massive star in the uk and do well but lets be honest that was more on brook then ggg hes a huge star there. my only point is ggg is the obvious b side and when u really look at it for example 60-40 split just doesnt make sense for anyone except k2 there is no reason canelo should have to bow out of what hes worth just because fans give ggg excuses they dont give canelo.

              I mean its not like pac mayweather where pac was the obvious B side but still worth a good 35-40% ggg is not in that strong of a position tho. ya hes got people blindly on his side like pac did in negotiations but that doesnt change that gbp is not just going to give away their worth just because loughler has the people on his side
              Last edited by Cinci Champ; 09-22-2016, 03:11 AM.

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              • skinnystev
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                #27
                there is nothing wrong with canolas hand he faked the injury he's looking for a way out

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                • kafkod
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Golovkin
                  Loeffler and Gennady will have the final say, Mr. 62k will have to fight in the arena of our choosing. And I don't think it will be in Dallas so they'll have to beg or give us 60-40 because Gennady is the PPV star and THE 160 CHAMP. Mr. 62k has nothing.
                  Canelo will have to accept whatever he is offered, or spend the rest of his career being the lineal MW champ who isn't a MW and making up excuses for handing in his WBC belt and running away from GGG.

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                  • Derranged
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Golovkin is going to want 40% of that huge offer. He thinks he's the one that put 51,000 butts in the seats at that stadium.
                    Golovkin deserves a bag of rocks and fresh goat milk. Nothing more...

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                    • Sun_Tzu
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                      #30
                      I'm almost to the point that I think Golovkin should take the ten million and kick this kids ass and move on or tell him to kick rocks and go another way.

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