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  • #31
    District 9 also has a selfish interest in this. They don't want their Tribal Chief to be exposed and then forced to fight Gennady.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by j0zef View Post
      [*]"Golovkin never took any risks" is another NSB lie that has been spread like wildfire by his detractors. He was in negotiations to fight Ward, Froch and Ramirez at 168. He offered to fight Floyd at 154. He said he's open to catchweights from Cotto and Canelo AFTER he gets the belt from them.

      And while not fight related, keep in mind that Golovkin was in contract dispute with his promoter and moved himself and his whole family to a different country TWICE. That is more risks than 99% of fighters ever take.
      Just curious, but what are the parameters on this.

      Using this logic, does Canelo also get credit for Paul Williams and Joshua Clottey? Those fights has SIGNED contracts.

      Hell, does Mayweather now get credit for negotiations with Winky Wright?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by John Locke View Post
        Floyd is better than GGG, he doesn't need Canelo to beat him to prove that.
        Floyd could never beat GGG. Lets make that clear.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sweet Jones View Post
          Just curious, but what are the parameters on this.

          Using this logic, does Canelo also get credit for Paul Williams and Joshua Clottey? Those fights has SIGNED contracts.

          Hell, does Mayweather now get credit for negotiations with Winky Wright?
          He's painting Golovkin as an entitled prick sitting on his ass acting like an A-Side, refusing to budge to anything and seeking every possible advantage.

          Nobody is getting "credit" for anything. But when you say "Golovkin refuses to take risks", and refuse to acknowledge that Froch retired after saying he's 'too big, too strong', or that Floyd didn't take the fight after saying Golovkin is 'easy work', someone's gotta step in and put things into context.
          Just to be CLEAR - I don't blame either Floyd or Froch for retiring, that's their right and they deserve it. Just don't act like the possibility wasn't there.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Nachos Nacho View Post
            Floyd wants Canelo to beat Golovkin, because then Floyd can say "Hey look guys I already beat Canelo and Canelo beat GGG, therefore I'm better than GGG."

            Therefore anything Floyd says about the GGG-Canelo situation should be taken with a grain of salt. Floyd wants Canelo to wait till GGG gets old and then beat him, because it benefits Floyd himself.
            Yeah, he looked very frustrated when Guerrero didn't beat Garcia. I think he's hoping his legacy builds after the fact, but it may only diminish.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
              Dude look at Can'tNelo in that sig! Horrible posture wide open for a quick right cross horrible foot placement. If i were you I would find a better pic I'm sure there are plenty from Saturday's sparring match
              YDKSAB lol not everything has to be text book, he stepped in and reached in wide to land the punch he thought would be the KO punch and it was. BOOM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Dip_Slide View Post
                In 2005 Floyd Mayweather moved up to his 4th weight division (147) and the Dela Hoya fight presented itsef a year and a half later at 154, Floyd accepted 90-10 split in favor of Dela Hoya, Dela Hoya chose the judges, the ring and Mayweather's gloves, Floyd said fine let's just make the fight happen. Bear in mind, he was already the best P4P fighter in the world at the time and nobody was criticizing his level of opposition, but he still took that risk and that's what made him the star that he became.

                Now look at GGG, never took no risks, acting like the A side with Canelo when he's clearly not while being criticized by more than 70% of the boxing fans for his resume and still not trying to make any concessions to make the big fights happen, why is he better than all the fighters before him that took risks to become stars in boxing? if he wants to be great then he needs to go through the same process, that's just fair and that's what Floyd means when he says Canelo doesn't owe GGG anything, GGG needs him and he's supposed to do whatever it takes to make the fight if he's confident in winning.
                False.

                Oscar made $52 million and Floyd made $25 million. That would make it a 67/33 split, not 90/10.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Dip_Slide View Post
                  In 2005 Floyd Mayweather moved up to his 4th weight division (147) and the Dela Hoya fight presented itsef a year and a half later at 154, Floyd accepted 90-10 split in favor of Dela Hoya, Dela Hoya chose the judges, the ring and Mayweather's gloves, Floyd said fine let's just make the fight happen. Bear in mind, he was already the best P4P fighter in the world at the time and nobody was criticizing his level of opposition, but he still took that risk and that's what made him the star that he became.

                  Now look at GGG, never took no risks, acting like the A side with Canelo when he's clearly not while being criticized by more than 70% of the boxing fans for his resume and still not trying to make any concessions to make the big fights happen, why is he better than all the fighters before him that took risks to become stars in boxing? if he wants to be great then he needs to go through the same process, that's just fair and that's what Floyd means when he says Canelo doesn't owe GGG anything, GGG needs him and he's supposed to do whatever it takes to make the fight if he's confident in winning.
                  I agree wholeheartedly. Floyd earned his way to the top of the food chain. Once he go there, Floyd didn't own anyone anything, including fans who didn't support him on his way up the ladder. Alvarez, on a much smaller scale, has made his way to the top of the food chain. He doesn't owe Golovkin or anyone else anything.

                  If Golovkin wants to get to where Alvarez is, Golovkin needs to earn his way to that level. He has not earned it yet and will not earn it fighting the Willie Munroe's of the world. Erislandy Lara, who already fought Alvarez, has been calling out Golovkin for a year. If Golovkin had fought Erislanda Lara instead of Munroe, Golovkin could have made a better argument for a fight with Alvarez.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Dip_Slide View Post
                    In 2005 Floyd Mayweather moved up to his 4th weight division (147) and the Dela Hoya fight presented itsef a year and a half later at 154, Floyd accepted 90-10 split in favor of Dela Hoya, Dela Hoya chose the judges, the ring and Mayweather's gloves, Floyd said fine let's just make the fight happen. Bear in mind, he was already the best P4P fighter in the world at the time and nobody was criticizing his level of opposition, but he still took that risk and that's what made him the star that he became.

                    Now look at GGG, never took no risks, acting like the A side with Canelo when he's clearly not while being criticized by more than 70% of the boxing fans for his resume and still not trying to make any concessions to make the big fights happen, why is he better than all the fighters before him that took risks to become stars in boxing? if he wants to be great then he needs to go through the same process, that's just fair and that's what Floyd means when he says Canelo doesn't owe GGG anything, GGG needs him and he's supposed to do whatever it takes to make the fight if he's confident in winning.
                    Nothing more needs to be said on this subject.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by larryusa View Post
                      how does that make any sense?? floyd never fought at middeweight
                      He was champ at 154, a weight GGG has challenged him at, multiple times

                      Fans would be demanding a GGG-Floyd match as long as GGG is at MW and Floyd is being called JMW champ by the sanctioning bodies, even if he rarely fights at JMW

                      After the Pac-Floyd dud, GGG-Floyd was the next big match in boxing, fans were already putting on the pressure on Floyd, and he was having none of that, because he knows GGG would wreck him.

                      People were already demanding for the match, Floyd calls himself TBE so naturally, after finally manning up and fighting Pac, GGG was the next big challenge for this pretender. that's why he had to retire

                      If GGG moves up from MW, the match is no longer doable, that's why Floyd wants GGG to move up to SMW and LHW ¨ so badly

                      The moment GGG moves up to SMW and is unable to ever make 154, that's the moment when Floyd will announce his comeback to get the craved ¨50-0¨, which he'll get against some bum
                      Last edited by lopetego; 09-21-2016, 12:50 AM.

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