Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk's Grand Arrival Marks New Trends in Boxing

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  • Banderivets
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    #11
    Originally posted by BWC
    Guy is no elite HW in this day and age. I assume he will move up eventually but he will get smoked at the top level in HW. Just way too much size and power up there...
    He fought super heavyweights in WsB and took shots from them and never buckled.

    He is a bit small in this day and age, but unless you are willing to admit that all heavys of the past have no chance at modern HW likes of Ali including your statement does not apply here.

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    • BWC
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      #12
      Originally posted by Banderivets
      He fought super heavyweights in WsB and took shots from them and never buckled.

      He is a bit small in this day and age, but unless you are willing to admit that all heavys of the past have no chance at modern HW likes of Ali including your statement does not apply here.
      We're talking about massive guys with HUGE power like Wilder, AJ, etc. Even guys like Fury and Jarrell Miller can pop. We'll see. I'm not saying he doesn't have skills, just not sure they're enough in modern HW.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Banderivets
        He fought super heavyweights in WsB and took shots from them and never buckled.

        He is a bit small in this day and age, but unless you are willing to admit that all heavys of the past have no chance at modern HW likes of Ali including your statement does not apply here.
        Are you putting Usyk in the same class as Ali?

        Personally I'd like to see him stay at cruiserweight for a while. There are a lot of interesting fights that can be made there that will challenge him. Dorticos and Lebedev in particular.

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        • Banderivets
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          #14
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          Are you putting Usyk in the same class as Ali?

          Personally I'd like to see him stay at cruiserweight for a while. There are a lot of interesting fights that can be made there that will challenge him. Dorticos and Lebedev in particular.
          Definitely not in the same class as Ali that's ridiculous.

          Just making a size compassion. He is bigger than Ali. He's got an inch or two on him and seems to have a wider frame.

          We can look at Haye recently as well.

          I just don't think that with his ability he will be at that much of a disadvantage at Super heavy. His chin has not been tested that much but I've seen him get hit flush by super heavies and taking it without drama. Wolder and AJ are something else but at least we know that he won't drop from a decent shot like some.

          He said before on Ukrainian TV after having spared Wlad that he feels he could hang with him, he actually called out Wlad on live TV in the same room with him.

          With AJ, Tyson, Wilder you throw Usyk in the mix it's looking exciting.

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          • Dean_Razorback
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            #15
            he looks like he's been doing coke in that pic lol

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            • NEETzsche
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              #16
              Originally posted by BWC
              We're talking about massive guys with HUGE power like Wilder, AJ, etc. Even guys like Fury and Jarrell Miller can pop. We'll see. I'm not saying he doesn't have skills, just not sure they're enough in modern HW.
              he beat joe joyce, this year's silver medalist (unlucky not to win gold), who is a big guy and a big puncher

              that was in a 5 rounder too

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              • j0zef
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                #17
                Yeah, Usyk really surprised me at how good he was. I picked Glowacki before, but Usyk scored an easy victory. He moves beautifully for such a big guy. There are some exciting fights at CW (imagine if Gassiev beats Lebedev and we get Usyk vs. Gassiev - a boxer vs. a power ****er). He definitely has the tools to succeed at HW too. A little undersized, but his athletecism will serve him well against the slower men.

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                • richardt
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                  #18
                  I hadn't heard of him before but saw some footage today and he has some serious skills. Marco Huck dominated the division for a long time but it looks like this guy is the new era.

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                  • DblLFThooK
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                    #19
                    I picked this upset. Payday.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mikhnienko
                      Very nice write up. You should have included top 10 LHW Vyacheslav Shabranskyy among the list of Ukrainians even though he never competed at the Olympics he was around during the same era and a rival of Gvozdyk at Nationals like Derevyanchenko was Khytrov.

                      Proclaiming that Usyk won't stay at CW long is speculation on your part and your summary of his options in the division inaccurate. A unification with the Bellew/Briedis winner or Gassiev if he wins is very possible and voluntaries against Huck, Dorticos, Wlod/Durodula winner, Chakhkiev, Kucher, Kalenga, Mchunu, Cieslak, Kudryashov during the meantime would be very worth while competition.
                      I like Shabranskyy. And here's a guy who's willing to take very little money for the risk the challenger would take against him. Now that's something worth paying attention to. Not even Andre Ward would look his way. That's really intimidating for other LHW's.

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