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  • bambam182
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    #81
    Originally posted by Kazakh Thunder
    Boxers that ducked/ducking GGG

    1---Sturm - wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.

    2---Quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol + he flew to Haymon to avoid GGG

    3---Martinez - "His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster", GGG kept calling him out after his U.S. debut after every fight

    4---Cotto - ducked his mandatory(GGG) twice by fighting Geale and Canelo

    5---Chavez jr - Turned down 12mil offer by TR

    6---Canela - Avoided his mando(GGG). Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG. There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple. And then he dropped the belt when he had to fight GGG next, wow

    7---Froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now he is retired after making all the fuss, + GGG was calling him for more than a year b4 he was retired so no excuses for "retiring".

    8---Ward - The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked + he was fine when Dawson came down a whole division for him but wont move half a division for GGG, smh

    9---Saunders - Even before winning the WBO title from Lee his fear of Golovkin was as biright as day this is just one of many interviews(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJuwAz-ekoQ), then after winning it he priced himslef out at 6 mil$. Then turned down $3.2mill offer from k-2(its 2.2 gbp so I converted)

    10---Eubank jr - Very similar to Froch's duck of GGG, after calling GGG out he ducked when he had to sign

    11---Jacobs - asked for a life changing money and then said that after 18 months, lol gtfoh.

    12---Njikam - When Hassaan was WBO champ, he was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.

    13---Barker - When Barker defeated Geale to become IBF champ, his promoter openly said that Barker will fight any1 except GGG
    suck off ggg yet

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    • Metho_4u
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      #82
      Originally posted by Catrin
      From one Duck to another Duck! MotherDuckers!!! LOL this coming from a guy that made juan manuel marquez go up to fight him! I tol ya guys Canelo picked up were Floyd left on cherry picking! don't believe me ask Berto who is not even ranked! cherry picking at it's best!
      And what about the other 47 opponents? Lol idiot

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      • Metho_4u
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        #83
        I'm still waiting for someone to tell me who Floyd ever avoided....

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        • Boxing Logic
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          #84
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          July 8, 2015:

          Although Golovkin is the bigger draw than Ward in terms of selling tickets and television ratings, Loeffler explained the terms they would be willing to make the fight for.

          “GGG is now clearly the ‘A’ side yet Ward still would want to dictate terms, which makes no sense,” Loeffler said. “GGG would fight Ward on a 50-50 basis, the best 160-pounder versus the best 168-pounder [at] 164 [and] a 50-50 split on all proceeds. But it seems like Ward needs more tuneup fights.”

          http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/...ke-ward-vs-ggg

          July 23, 205:

          "We don't need Ward. Golovkin doesn't need Ward. Dawson needed Ward. The fact that he made Dawson come down to 168 kind of irks me. When [Golovkin's promoter] Tom [Loeffler] said 50-50, and me and Tom talked about it, he meant 50-50 all the way across. That was the reason why I said 50-50 and 50-50 means 164 - right in the middle. If they want the fight, come to what Golovkin is aking for," Sanchez told BoxingScene.com.

          "I don't think Ward should have a problem making 164. He talked about fighting Mayweather at 160. Why is he talking about fighting Mayweather at 160 if he's not willing to fight Gennady at 164?"

          "If they thought that it was in their best interest to fight Gennady at 164, then fight him - or else they can go about their way. For us, Golovkin is the A-fighter in this situation and I don't care what anybody says. It's not like Golovkin is asking him to come down to 160, like [Golovkin] was going to do for Mayweather and go to 154. We're asking him to meet us halfway. If he doesn't want to, that's okay - we'll just go on to the next one."

          Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas - Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, has made it absolutely clear that he's not going to budge from his position that a potential fight with Andre Ward will only happen if Ward - the recognized champion at super middleweight - is wiling to meet them halfway at a catch-weight of 164-pounds. Golovkin and his team received more than their fair share of heat in recent days, after placing a catch-weight demand on a potential fight with Ward. The reason for the heat, is because Golovkin was willing to fight both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the full super middleweight limit.


          And if Ward holds the line at 168?

          "Then tell Ward to go somewhere else. We don't need Ward. That would be my response to Tom, if Tom came to me with that," Sanchez said.

          http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins...o-fight--93850
          Thanks for doing all this work. This is very interesting. It sounds like they were sick of dealing with Ward's demands for tuneups and other ridiculous demands and decided to give him some of his own medicine like he did to Chad Dawson. But you left out very important information which makes it seem like you're trying to mislead people.

          "If Ward puts together a few good wins and gets the buzz going again, Golovkin's position on the weight might have some wiggle room.

          "That's something that would be a discussion amongst the team. And if we all came to the consensus that it was the right thing to do, then yes [we'd consider budging on the weight]. But right now, as it stands, he has to come to 164 if he wants to fight Gennady," Sanchez said.


          Remember GGG was at 160. Ward was at 168. 164 is halfway. Makes perfect sense. The difference with Canelo is Canelo is a natural 160, who is the lineal middleweight champ. If GGG was defending the lineal super middleweight champ, then he should defend that at 168, but he's not.

          The fight was never going to happen though because as Virgil said, Ward was a "scaled down light heavyweight" when he was fighting at 168. GGG is a small to average middleweight. That's two weight classes. Ward walks around at 200 lbs at least says Virgil. GGG walks around at 170. That's 30 pounds different. There's even been talking about Ward fighting at cruiserweight, while GGG has talked about moving down to junior middleweight to fight Floyd.

          Junior middleweight. Vs cruiserweight. That's how big the spectrum is between the weights they can conceivably fight at. Ward has even talked about heavyweight! That's how naturally big he is. He was draining like crazy to make 168, while GGG makes 160 easily. So Ward never wanted the fight because he couldn't make 168 anymore. You can only "scale down" to fight smaller guys for so long. Now Ward is finally fighting someone his size, although he looked bigger than Kovalev in their face off too. Like I said, people didn't realize how big he truly always has been.
          Last edited by Boxing Logic; 09-20-2016, 07:50 PM.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Metho_4u
            I'm still waiting for someone to tell me who Floyd ever avoided....
            Are you a new boxing fan lol? Spaddy, Margarito, prime Cotto (he retired then came back later), prime Pacquiao avoided him for the better part of a decade, Paul Williams, fought Berto instead of a much tougher style for him and bigger $ fight Amir Khan. How is your name Money Mayweather but you intentionally choose a fight that will make less $? I guess you do it because it's easier. Avoided prime Mosley as well. There are many more I just have to go back and look it all up, but it's not worth my time.

            He also advised Ward not to fight Kovalev, and advised Canelo not to fight GGG. He truly does not believe in the best fighting the best, whether in his own career or anyone else's.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Boxing Logic
              Are you a new boxing fan lol? Spaddy, Margarito, prime Cotto (he retired then came back later), prime Pacquiao avoided him for the better part of a decade, Paul Williams, fought Berto instead of a much tougher style for him and bigger $ fight Amir Khan. How is your name Money Mayweather but you intentionally choose a fight that will make less $? I guess you do it because it's easier. Avoided prime Mosley as well. There are many more I just have to go back and look it all up, but it's not worth my time.

              He also advised Ward not to fight Kovalev, and advised Canelo not to fight GGG. He truly does not believe in the best fighting the best, whether in his own career or anyone else's.
              Manny avoided testing, flat out
              Marga******o? Are you f'n serious? He would have boxed circles around that 1 dimensional pos.
              Cotto? They didn't want the fight when Floyd was back at 140, neither he or Hatton wanted that fight at that time actually.
              Spadafora... lol ahhhh yes, the infamous sparring session where Paul was already in training and Floyd had just started...that's really old news and grasping at straws.
              Williams? Eh, that's much more a possibility than any of the above mentioned.
              Khan???? Are you really serious? What kind of problems would khan have given Floyd? The punch Canelo landed in the 6th? Yeah, Floyd would've landed that in the first Rd. Khan would've gotten beaten up and stopped. Besides that, all khan was doing was running his mouth, so Floyd strung him along, and then picked someone else... lmao, ****ing amir khan...got KO'D twice, and by Garcia, who isn't even near the lev ed link Floyd was.

              Man, your sn should be bull**** boxing, because you have NO logic and speak from hopes and dreams rather than reality.

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              • Metho_4u
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                #87
                Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                Thanks for doing all this work. This is very interesting. It sounds like they were sick of dealing with Ward's demands for tuneups and other ridiculous demands and decided to give him some of his own medicine like he did to Chad Dawson. But you left out very important information which makes it seem like you're trying to mislead people.

                "If Ward puts together a few good wins and gets the buzz going again, Golovkin's position on the weight might have some wiggle room.

                "That's something that would be a discussion amongst the team. And if we all came to the consensus that it was the right thing to do, then yes [we'd consider budging on the weight]. But right now, as it stands, he has to come to 164 if he wants to fight Gennady," Sanchez said.


                Remember GGG was at 160. Ward was at 168. 164 is halfway. Makes perfect sense. The difference with Canelo is Canelo is a natural 160, who is the lineal middleweight champ. If GGG was defending the lineal super middleweight champ, then he should defend that at 168, but he's not.

                The fight was never going to happen though because as Virgil said, Ward was a "scaled down light heavyweight" when he was fighting at 168. GGG is a small to average middleweight. That's two weight classes. Ward walks around at 200 lbs at least says Virgil. GGG walks around at 170. That's 30 pounds different. There's even been talking about Ward fighting at cruiserweight, while GGG has talked about moving down to junior middleweight to fight Floyd.

                Junior middleweight. Vs cruiserweight. That's how big the spectrum is between the weights they can conceivably fight at. Ward has even talked about heavyweight! That's how naturally big he is. He was draining like crazy to make 168, while GGG makes 160 easily. So Ward never wanted the fight because he couldn't make 168 anymore. You can only "scale down" to fight smaller guys for so long. Now Ward is finally fighting someone his size, although he looked bigger than Kovalev in their face off too. Like I said, people didn't realize how big he truly always has been.
                ****** azz lol, yet again you're reaching for something that isn't there. Dawson was flat out asked about a fight with Ward and he said "we can do it at 68 or 75" what demands did Ward have. Gayasslovekin has fought NO ONE, ZERO, ZIP, elite in 36 fights now...do you even believe the bs you spout off? Ward had absolutely no reason the duck Gayasslovekin...Sanchez knew damn well that he'd get his azz beat, and embarrassed....THAT is why the fight didn't happen. Just look at all the excuses team Gayasslovekin has used...you're a total moron.

                And why the **** are you bringing up canelo's weight? This isn't even about Canelo right now, you're deflecting and just trying to find reasons why it was OK to want Froch or Chavez at 68, but not Ward....****in joker you are lol...pathetic
                Last edited by Metho_4u; 09-20-2016, 10:54 PM.

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                • Bronx2245
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                  Thanks for doing all this work. This is very interesting. It sounds like they were sick of dealing with Ward's demands for tuneups and other ridiculous demands and decided to give him some of his own medicine like he did to Chad Dawson. But you left out very important information which makes it seem like you're trying to mislead people.

                  "If Ward puts together a few good wins and gets the buzz going again, Golovkin's position on the weight might have some wiggle room.

                  "That's something that would be a discussion amongst the team. And if we all came to the consensus that it was the right thing to do, then yes [we'd consider budging on the weight]. But right now, as it stands, he has to come to 164 if he wants to fight Gennady," Sanchez said.


                  Remember GGG was at 160. Ward was at 168. 164 is halfway. Makes perfect sense. The difference with Canelo is Canelo is a natural 160, who is the lineal middleweight champ. If GGG was defending the lineal super middleweight champ, then he should defend that at 168, but he's not.

                  The fight was never going to happen though because as Virgil said, Ward was a "scaled down light heavyweight" when he was fighting at 168. GGG is a small to average middleweight. That's two weight classes. Ward walks around at 200 lbs at least says Virgil. GGG walks around at 170. That's 30 pounds different. There's even been talking about Ward fighting at cruiserweight, while GGG has talked about moving down to junior middleweight to fight Floyd.

                  Junior middleweight. Vs cruiserweight. That's how big the spectrum is between the weights they can conceivably fight at. Ward has even talked about heavyweight! That's how naturally big he is. He was draining like crazy to make 168, while GGG makes 160 easily. So Ward never wanted the fight because he couldn't make 168 anymore. You can only "scale down" to fight smaller guys for so long. Now Ward is finally fighting someone his size, although he looked bigger than Kovalev in their face off too. Like I said, people didn't realize how big he truly always has been.
                  It's a duck! Froch and Chavez Jr were just as big as Ward, but for them 168. for Ward 164! Canelo is irrelevant to the Ward vs. GGG issue, other than the fact that the "A-side calls shots!" I'm just glad that you finally realize that both Loeffler and Sanchez made those statements! I don't know how you didn't notice them in the past!

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                    #89
                    Floyds strategy was to drain as much money as possible from the boxing casuals

                    Canelo is now adopting that strategy

                    And you have people applauding him like they are the ones making the money lol

                    The casual boxing fan, the man next door, doesnt know when hes being fed trash but they are starting to wisen up.

                    And the promoters are fkin ******. Canelo being paraded around like hes a champion lol. Goes after the weakest belt holder. The whole system is a joke. Casuals dont kno who the champ is. I dont even watch ufc and i kno mcgregor is the champ in 2 divisions right now. Theres a narrative to follow. Boxing is a **** show free-for-all royal rumble money grab.
                    Last edited by jas; 09-21-2016, 07:00 AM.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Metho_4u
                      I'm still waiting for someone to tell me who Floyd ever avoided....
                      He did not "avoided" them! he just went into retirement when cotto, pakiao, margarito, P. Williams were on there prime! He ran into Retirement and decided to wait 5 years to face all this opposition! cotto fight was a 2009 fight! pakiao was a 2008 fight and yet he AVOIDED them every time by saying that THEY did not bring enough fan base to be worthy of fighting him! but yet he fights berto who has done nothing nor has the fan base or is even Ranked!!! vitch please....

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