Lmao, is that what happened? A whole 2 lbs under for a 23 year old kid huh? Must've been a killer. You and boxing logic need to make sure you give each other reach arounds.
People who know about this stuff - like Floyd and his team - know that 2lbs can be the difference between strong at the weight and dead at the weight.
People who don't know shit about this stuff - like you - post dumb comments like that.
If those 2lbs didn't matter, why did Floyd refuse to fight Canelo unless he made 152?
He fought Cotto and Oscar at 154 ... why not Canelo?
Stop quoting anonymous boxingscene assertions and use actual quotes from Loeffler or Abel. If you can find a quote from them saying Ward could only happen at 164 then you'd have a point, but you can't
FYI Virgil Hunter says Ward was a "scaled down light heavyweight" at 168 and naturally walks around 30 pounds heavier than GGG. Ward says he can't make 168 and struggles to make 175. He and Kovalev are the same size so you should be happy they're fighting, unless you don't think Ward can beat guys his own size?
We already know you think GGG is good enough to beat everyone his own size, which is why you keep wishing he would fight someone 30 pounds bigger, but now it seems like you don't think Ward is also good enough to beat guys his own size?
Hm maybe this is a tacit admission that you believe GGG is better than Ward?
July 8, 2015:
Although Golovkin is the bigger draw than Ward in terms of selling tickets and television ratings, Loeffler explained the terms they would be willing to make the fight for.
“GGG is now clearly the ‘A’ side yet Ward still would want to dictate terms, which makes no sense,” Loeffler said. “GGG would fight Ward on a 50-50 basis, the best 160-pounder versus the best 168-pounder [at] 164 [and] a 50-50 split on all proceeds. But it seems like Ward needs more tuneup fights.”
"We don't need Ward. Golovkin doesn't need Ward. Dawson needed Ward. The fact that he made Dawson come down to 168 kind of irks me. When [Golovkin's promoter] Tom [Loeffler] said 50-50, and me and Tom talked about it, he meant 50-50 all the way across. That was the reason why I said 50-50 and 50-50 means 164 - right in the middle. If they want the fight, come to what Golovkin is aking for," Sanchez told BoxingScene.com.
"I don't think Ward should have a problem making 164. He talked about fighting Mayweather at 160. Why is he talking about fighting Mayweather at 160 if he's not willing to fight Gennady at 164?"
"If they thought that it was in their best interest to fight Gennady at 164, then fight him - or else they can go about their way. For us, Golovkin is the A-fighter in this situation and I don't care what anybody says. It's not like Golovkin is asking him to come down to 160, like [Golovkin] was going to do for Mayweather and go to 154. We're asking him to meet us halfway. If he doesn't want to, that's okay - we'll just go on to the next one."
Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas - Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, has made it absolutely clear that he's not going to budge from his position that a potential fight with Andre Ward will only happen if Ward - the recognized champion at super middleweight - is wiling to meet them halfway at a catch-weight of 164-pounds.
Golovkin and his team received more than their fair share of heat in recent days, after placing a catch-weight demand on a potential fight with Ward. The reason for the heat, is because Golovkin was willing to fight both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the full super middleweight limit.
And if Ward holds the line at 168?
"Then tell Ward to go somewhere else. We don't need Ward. That would be my response to Tom, if Tom came to me with that," Sanchez said.
Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas - Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, has made it absolutely clear that he's not going to budge from his position that a potential fight with Andre Ward will only happen if Ward - the recognized champion at super middleweight - is wiling to meet them halfway at a catch-weight of 164-pounds.
Golovkin and his team received more than their fair share of heat in recent days, after placing a catch-weight demand on a potential fight with Ward. The reason for the heat, is because Golovkin was willing to fight both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the full super middleweight limit.
If canelo can make 154lb and wants to remain at that weight and fight other champions then I'm cool with it...and I've always said that....the reason why canelo upset so many people is simply because he ducked his mandatory and went back on his word....boxing fans don't like this kind of behaviour...period
I agree with this 100%
Canelo knew he would have a mandatory obligation to fight GGG at 160 if he won the WBC belt by beating Canelo.
If he wasn't ready to do that, he should have been honest about it and relinquished the belt as soon as he won it.
So Floyd wants GGG to move to 175 but Canelo (who enters the ring heavier) should stay at 154? Ok.. - Who the fcuk thought it was a great idea to stop doing same day weigh in?
And he can't even use the good old "anybody from 154 to 168" excuse for that outstanding example of blatent bias and hypocrisy.
Funny, not a single person who is coming up to fight GGG is smaller. Brook outweighed him at every weigh in. Canelo is always heavier than GGG is except on the 24 weigh in.
So Stop it. Plus, most of GGG fights have been against guys who weigh upwards of 180.
He fought a welter weight after a MW backed out in last moment, a WW who outweighed him. That WW moved up when no top MW would fight.
And Canelo isn't smaller than GGG. He is heavier and gas longer reach. He's shorter than GGG is, but he's not smaller. Canelo is lineal MW champ.
When he decided to fight Cotto he became the man who beat the man at 160. He had been fight above 154 for three years.
Canelo on other hand has rarely fought guys same size. Cotto was way smaller. Khan not even close. He won his first title dragging Ahatton up from 147.
Good post. Better be careful. You're making to many accurate observations which point out the facts. Canelo is a MW plain and simple. Oscar didn't want his Golden boys career and paydays to end prematurely. Not hard to understand from a business standpoint. Makes sense for them to wait. If Canelo would have kept his mouth shut posturing about GGG most wouldn't have too much of a problem with it.
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