Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Golovkin Should Take a Risk Like Other Champions Do!

[Bushbaby]

I get it, you're a fan. Your avi speaks volumes. Let me break this down.

If you look at Williams' resume his best win was Margacheato. Marga has never looked good against anyone with at least decent speed. But fine, that's one.

Sergio Martinez - first fight he got a gift. Second fight, Maravilla put him to bed.

Erisland Lara - straight up exposed Williams, got robbed for his trouble. Don't even bother dis*****g this was a robbery.

Beyond those three, Williams fought bums to get to 42. Not one big name to be seen. He never would have stood a chance against Floyd, his defense was terrible and he was eating shots clean from both Lara and Martinez across 3 fights.

Lara and Martinez are big southpaws. Floyd isn't any of those. And Floyd absolutely ducked the Margarito Punisher beat. You don't get anything. He traversed 3 weight classes simultaneously because no one wanted to fight him. That's the definition of not protected. Then you act like Martinez and Lara were not top fighters. Ohh yeah, Martinez also wanted Floyd at 154.

[Bushbaby]

I dont know that any of those guys would have beaten Manny.

Nobody knows this. They arent fighting each other, so we dont really know what they got.

You have a bad habit of trying to pass your opinions as facts.

Ok, so by your own logic, since neither Floyd nor Manny beat any of those undefeated, prime welterweights then you don't really know that they're better then right?? I mean your logic must apply full spectrum.

You have Brook and Thurman, hell even DSG, Floyd fights Berto.

[Boxing lives]

Dlh coming off loss to bh. A bit of a risk but few and far between.



Everyone knows ward moved up to dodge ggg. Floyd did that as well.

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Ward moved up because GGG was a coward that demanded the fight be at 164. So Ward moved up to fight Kovalev, a much more dangerous opponent. GTFO with this Ward moved up to dodge GGG. How can he dodge a fight that would never get made? He gave Grovelkin a chance. Grovblumpkin bitched out.

[Raonic]

If people can't give Floyd credit and are saying all these fighters he fought were out their prime then a Froch 38 year old Froch isn't much either.

So you want both sides to be wrong then?

[Chuckguy]

Yes he should but he needs the Canelo fight first

[Combat Talk Radio]

Lara and Martinez are big southpaws. Floyd isn't any of those.

Nope. But Floyd's beaten southpaws. Williams point blank period should have lost to Lara, lost to Martinez, should have lost twice.

And Floyd absolutely ducked the Margarito Punisher beat. You don't get anything. He traversed 3 weight classes simultaneously because no one wanted to fight him. That's the definition of not protected. Then you act like Martinez and Lara were not top fighters. Ohh yeah, Martinez also wanted Floyd at 154.

Lara was not a top fighter at any point and even now isn't. He's a great fighter, but he's not a big name and frankly, doesn't sell tickets.

Sergio Martinez is and was, thus his brutal KO of Paul Williams which highlighted him, but again, Williams doesn't deserve credit for the win he got. He didn't beat the man. I don't give you credit if you lost to an ATG! If that were the case Darnell Boone would be in some Hall of Fame. Come on man.

Floyd went after the big paydays and guess what? That was smart business. He's healthy, he's not slurring, reasonably wealthy, and has half the current fight game and even other sports still calling him out almost a year after retirement. Why? They want the money. They see how Maidana took his money and kicked back.

Meanwhile, Sadam Ali is back, decisioning bums and barely selling out a basketball auditorium after going to war with Jessie Vargas and Manny Pacquiao, once at the top of the game, can't even get on HBO anymore.

Who came out better? TBE.

[Bushbaby]

Nope. But Floyd's beaten southpaws. Williams point blank period should have lost to Lara, lost to Martinez, should have lost twice.




Lara was not a top fighter at any point and even now isn't. He's a great fighter, but he's not a big name and frankly, doesn't sell tickets.

Sergio Martinez is and was, thus his brutal KO of Paul Williams which highlighted him, but again, Williams doesn't deserve credit for the win he got. He didn't beat the man. I don't give you credit if you lost to an ATG! If that were the case Darnell Boone would be in some Hall of Fame. Come on man.

Floyd went after the big paydays and guess what? That was smart business. He's healthy, he's not slurring, reasonably wealthy, and has half the current fight game and even other sports still calling him out almost a year after retirement. Why? They want the money. They see how Maidana took his money and kicked back.

Meanwhile, Sadam Ali is back, decisioning bums and barely selling out a basketball auditorium after going to war with Jessie Vargas and Manny Pacquiao, once at the top of the game, can't even get on HBO anymore.

Who came out better? TBE.

Now now, mister contradictory. You tried to compare lara and Martinez to Floyd. Which is why I informed you that both were big southpaws. That has absolutely nothing to do with any southpaw Floyds beaten.

How does Lara is not a top fighter, but he's a great fighter work?? Your own words, lol.

We know Martinez ko'd the Punisher. Did someone say he didn't?? My original post and every other to this point talked about the threats Floyd ducked. Not the Punisher and Martinez fighting each other, son.

And Floyd making smart business moves is exactly what he did. Least risk, high reward. We agree on that. Nothing in your long a$$ post really made sense. It's a reading oxi moron. I think we're done here. Because at the root of it all, you agree with the points I made, because Floyd did make great business moves, and avoided quite a few challenges while he was at it. Thanks for the insight, but not really. Have a swell day.

[AllBoxingAD]

Ok, so by your own logic, since neither Floyd nor Manny beat any of those undefeated, prime welterweights then you don't really know that they're better then right?? I mean your logic must apply full spectrum.

You have Brook and Thurman, hell even DSG, Floyd fights Berto.

No, because Floyd and Manny have 15 year + careers we can base ourselves on to know what they got.

Maybe Garcia cant take Manny's punch.

Maybe Thurman cant deal with Floyd's counters.

Maybe Brook isnt even as good Bradley.

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Those guys are not proven in their overall careers. Not enough to say with any certainty that they would have beaten Manny or Floyd last year.

[WesternChamp]

"fight smarter, not harder" ....

[Bushbaby]

No, because Floyd and Manny have 15 year + careers we can base ourselves on to know what they got.

Maybe Garcia cant take Manny's punch.

Maybe Thurman cant deal with Floyd's counters.

Maybe Brook isnt even as good Bradley.

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Those guys are not proven in their overall careers. Not enough to say with any certainty that they would have beaten Manny or Floyd last year.

Ok, so it only applies to anyone not named Floyd or Manny, got it.