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How are you this thick? According to Ward's own trainer Ward naturally weighs 30 pounds heavier than GGG. How can you duck someone who is naturally 3-4 weight classes bigger than you? Ward's only offer to GGG came 20 minutes after he signed to fight Lemieux. You think Ward did this by accident? He has already said he can't make 168 and it's hard even making 175. Ward never intended to fight GGG. I won't say he was ducking GGG but he was ducking the weight. And even with a natural 30 pound weight advantage, it was Ward demanding tuneups to get ready for GGG, not GGG demanding tuneups at 168 to get ready for Ward in a new weight class. Crazy how that works isn't it? Somehow GGG was scared of Ward, but it was Ward who needed not one, not two, but three tuneups to get ready for GGG?
Again I won't say Ward was scared of GGG, or that he actually needed three tuneups to fight him, but he obviously made that ridiculous demand on purpose, and after GGG had already signed to fight Lemieux and was supposed to fight Canelo after, as a way to make sure the offer could never be accepted, so that Ward would not be contractually obligated to move back down to 168 when he knew he couldn't make the weight.
He already made offers to fight people at 168 like Carl Froch, so saying he is unable to budge from 160 is once again misinformed at best, YDKSAB at worst. GGG's promoter has also talked about fighting Gilberto Ramirez at 168, a monster 168 lbs puncher with huge size and reach advantages over GGG. Truly, a natural light heavyweight, but GGG, a small to average middleweight, is willing to fight him.
Guess who isn't ready to fight GGG yet? That very same natural light heavyweight! As usual, it is the guys who even have natural 20-30 pound weight advantages over GGG who STILL aren't willing to fight him yet, who STILL say "I'd fight him, but not next."
That's what is so crazy. Even top tier natural light heavyweights are still ducking GGG for the time being. GGG will fight anyone! Froch retired to avoid him. Froch is naturally 25 lbs heavier than GGG. GGG was still willing to fight him. Froch wasn't! It's the same old story. So many guys have ducked GGG in and around his weight division that all you guys can do is pull at the one straw you think you have, which is Andre Ward. Unfortunately, Ward's trainer has admitted he was a scaled down light heavyweight at 168, and that he naturally weighs 30 pounds heavier than GGG. Unfortunately, Ward himself has admitted he struggles to make 175, and can't make 168. Unfortunately, it's documented fact that Ward only offered to fight GGG after GGG had signed to fight Lemieux, and that Ward is the one who wanted tuneups to fight GGG, even though GGG was the one coming to a new weight class. Usually it's the guy going up in weight who asks for tuneups to get acclimated to the new weight, especially before fighting a pound for pound fighter who naturally outweighs him by 30 pounds. But GGG is so great, it was Ward asking for tuneups to fight him, not GGG asking for tuneups!
That's how great GGG is. So many guys have ducked him, that in your hatred for GGG, the only guy you can point to is Ward, but then even that falls apart when you look at the facts! So maybe just face facts, GGG is the best fighter in boxing, one of the most avoided in the history of the sport, and even guys who normally outweigh him by 4 weight classes don't want to fight him yet, or request tuneups first and only offer to fight him strategically after he's already signed to fight someone else, just like Danny Jacobs only called out GGG the day after GGG signed to fight Brook because Eubank Jr. also backed out of fighting him at the last minute, same as Froch and Chavez Jr. did, Jr. being another guy who naturally outweighs him by 30 pounds.
But GGG was willing to fight all these guys. They were the ones who wouldn't fight him, who lost their pens, who retired to avoid fighting him, or who say "I'll fight him but not next" even though they would immediately get career high paydays to fight him. That's how avoided GGG is. It's unprecedented. Even Mike Tyson was not avoided like this. Even Manny Pacquiao was not avoided like this except by one guy, but that was just one guy. GGG has been ducked by a parade of fighters from 160 to 168, including the biggest 168 pounders like Froch, Chavez Jr., and Gilberto Ramirez. It's crazy but that is just how good GGG is. Casual fans might not realize it but obviously the fighters do otherwise they would jump at the chance to get paid a career high payday to fight GGG, if it was easy work. But they know he's the best on the planet pound for pound, with the biggest punch pound for pound, the best pressure and offensive ring generalship, and one of the best chins, so they won't fight him. It's as simple as that.
"But Ward." If Ward wanted to fight GGG so bad, why did he request tuneups when GGG wasn't requesting any to move up to 168? Why did he wait until after GGG had signed to fight Lemieux to make an "offer" that still wouldn't have seen them fight for over a year lol, by which point he has now said he could not even make 168 and struggles to make 175?
Once again, facts.
"Okay cross Ward off the list. But Lara!"
His own manager says they are loyal to Showtime. Dibella said there would be "TV problems" for Lara to fight GGG. Lara don't want to fight GGG either otherwise GGG would have loved to fight him because they struggle to find name opponents who will get in the ring with him. If Lara really wanted to fight GGG by going to HBO and taking the money he's worth similar to David Lemieux, GGG would love to fight him, but both his manager and the promoter who works with his adviser have said "TV problems" / "loyal to Showtime" so that means they don't want to fight GGG.
So there you go. The complete history. The other 10 guys flat out ducked GGG, and these two guys either couldn't make the weight or won't go to HBO. So out of the 10 guys who can make 168 and below and who will fight on HBO, all 10 ducked, and the other two either ducked or in Ward's case couldn't make the weight and didn't intend to fight GGG.
Now that the facts are cleared up... next? Any more GGG haterade bull**** anyone would like me to dispel? I'm happy to set the record straight.
Again I won't say Ward was scared of GGG, or that he actually needed three tuneups to fight him, but he obviously made that ridiculous demand on purpose, and after GGG had already signed to fight Lemieux and was supposed to fight Canelo after, as a way to make sure the offer could never be accepted, so that Ward would not be contractually obligated to move back down to 168 when he knew he couldn't make the weight.
He already made offers to fight people at 168 like Carl Froch, so saying he is unable to budge from 160 is once again misinformed at best, YDKSAB at worst. GGG's promoter has also talked about fighting Gilberto Ramirez at 168, a monster 168 lbs puncher with huge size and reach advantages over GGG. Truly, a natural light heavyweight, but GGG, a small to average middleweight, is willing to fight him.
Guess who isn't ready to fight GGG yet? That very same natural light heavyweight! As usual, it is the guys who even have natural 20-30 pound weight advantages over GGG who STILL aren't willing to fight him yet, who STILL say "I'd fight him, but not next."
That's what is so crazy. Even top tier natural light heavyweights are still ducking GGG for the time being. GGG will fight anyone! Froch retired to avoid him. Froch is naturally 25 lbs heavier than GGG. GGG was still willing to fight him. Froch wasn't! It's the same old story. So many guys have ducked GGG in and around his weight division that all you guys can do is pull at the one straw you think you have, which is Andre Ward. Unfortunately, Ward's trainer has admitted he was a scaled down light heavyweight at 168, and that he naturally weighs 30 pounds heavier than GGG. Unfortunately, Ward himself has admitted he struggles to make 175, and can't make 168. Unfortunately, it's documented fact that Ward only offered to fight GGG after GGG had signed to fight Lemieux, and that Ward is the one who wanted tuneups to fight GGG, even though GGG was the one coming to a new weight class. Usually it's the guy going up in weight who asks for tuneups to get acclimated to the new weight, especially before fighting a pound for pound fighter who naturally outweighs him by 30 pounds. But GGG is so great, it was Ward asking for tuneups to fight him, not GGG asking for tuneups!
That's how great GGG is. So many guys have ducked him, that in your hatred for GGG, the only guy you can point to is Ward, but then even that falls apart when you look at the facts! So maybe just face facts, GGG is the best fighter in boxing, one of the most avoided in the history of the sport, and even guys who normally outweigh him by 4 weight classes don't want to fight him yet, or request tuneups first and only offer to fight him strategically after he's already signed to fight someone else, just like Danny Jacobs only called out GGG the day after GGG signed to fight Brook because Eubank Jr. also backed out of fighting him at the last minute, same as Froch and Chavez Jr. did, Jr. being another guy who naturally outweighs him by 30 pounds.
But GGG was willing to fight all these guys. They were the ones who wouldn't fight him, who lost their pens, who retired to avoid fighting him, or who say "I'll fight him but not next" even though they would immediately get career high paydays to fight him. That's how avoided GGG is. It's unprecedented. Even Mike Tyson was not avoided like this. Even Manny Pacquiao was not avoided like this except by one guy, but that was just one guy. GGG has been ducked by a parade of fighters from 160 to 168, including the biggest 168 pounders like Froch, Chavez Jr., and Gilberto Ramirez. It's crazy but that is just how good GGG is. Casual fans might not realize it but obviously the fighters do otherwise they would jump at the chance to get paid a career high payday to fight GGG, if it was easy work. But they know he's the best on the planet pound for pound, with the biggest punch pound for pound, the best pressure and offensive ring generalship, and one of the best chins, so they won't fight him. It's as simple as that.
"But Ward." If Ward wanted to fight GGG so bad, why did he request tuneups when GGG wasn't requesting any to move up to 168? Why did he wait until after GGG had signed to fight Lemieux to make an "offer" that still wouldn't have seen them fight for over a year lol, by which point he has now said he could not even make 168 and struggles to make 175?
Once again, facts.
"Okay cross Ward off the list. But Lara!"
His own manager says they are loyal to Showtime. Dibella said there would be "TV problems" for Lara to fight GGG. Lara don't want to fight GGG either otherwise GGG would have loved to fight him because they struggle to find name opponents who will get in the ring with him. If Lara really wanted to fight GGG by going to HBO and taking the money he's worth similar to David Lemieux, GGG would love to fight him, but both his manager and the promoter who works with his adviser have said "TV problems" / "loyal to Showtime" so that means they don't want to fight GGG.
So there you go. The complete history. The other 10 guys flat out ducked GGG, and these two guys either couldn't make the weight or won't go to HBO. So out of the 10 guys who can make 168 and below and who will fight on HBO, all 10 ducked, and the other two either ducked or in Ward's case couldn't make the weight and didn't intend to fight GGG.
Now that the facts are cleared up... next? Any more GGG haterade bull**** anyone would like me to dispel? I'm happy to set the record straight.
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