He will fight him in another year when GGG is older poosie move and yet you have idiots on here calling it boss and smart business. That's why the sport is dying you fawking ******s!
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Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View PostBusiness?! I would hate to do business with you. You would say one thing and then turn around and do the exact opposite of what you said. How would your customers feel about that? Have you ever owned a business? Did you blatantly lie to your customers and/or business partner?
Bob Arum, Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao lied about why the MayPac fight didn't happen in 2009. Lied. Why? To pressure Floyd. It didn't work.
2015, the fight happens, it was estimated to have pulled 4x the money it would have had they fought in 2009. Why? Because Manny hadn't yet been knocked out cold - asleep - and he hadn't yet lost to Tim Bradley, a guy people were comparing to Floyd. When Manny beat Bradley in the rematch, all of a sudden people assumed he was ready for TBE. Clearly he wasn't, but the point is, it was business to delay the fight and you know it.
Golovkin now has a name on his record. Though a welterweight Kell Brook was probably the most overall credible opponent he'd ever faced. Now that he's walked through Brook, if the Canelo fight gets signed, it will pull WAY more money than it would have had they fought before when G was struggling to fill out a bingo hall.
No matter what you think, G isn't some worldwide star. It's only boxing followers that know who he is. If he walked through Boston Logan airport, people would think he was some cab driver headed to the car. He needs Canelo and he knows it.
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Originally posted by revelated View PostClearly, you don't understand that what you explain is EXACTLY what "business" is. Whether you like it or not.
Bob Arum, Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao lied about why the MayPac fight didn't happen in 2009. Lied. Why? To pressure Floyd. It didn't work.
2015, the fight happens, it was estimated to have pulled 4x the money it would have had they fought in 2009. Why? Because Manny hadn't yet been knocked out cold - asleep - and he hadn't yet lost to Tim Bradley, a guy people were comparing to Floyd. When Manny beat Bradley in the rematch, all of a sudden people assumed he was ready for TBE. Clearly he wasn't, but the point is, it was business to delay the fight and you know it.
Golovkin now has a name on his record. Though a welterweight Kell Brook was probably the most overall credible opponent he'd ever faced. Now that he's walked through Brook, if the Canelo fight gets signed, it will pull WAY more money than it would have had they fought before when G was struggling to fill out a bingo hall.
No matter what you think, G isn't some worldwide star. It's only boxing followers that know who he is. If he walked through Boston Logan airport, people would think he was some cab driver headed to the car. He needs Canelo and he knows it.
Business.Last edited by GGG Gloveking; 09-16-2016, 09:11 PM.
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Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View PostSo, you think every good fight should take 5 or 6 years to make? I think that's foolish personally. I like the old school way of doing things, where Mayweather and Pacquiao would have fought3or 4 times in that span of time. But thats just me. I will continue to stand by my statement that lying, blatant lying, is not good for business. A real man is as only as good as his word. Just read some of these Canelo and Oscar threads. A lot of pe6ple don't believe a word either of them say. The reason for that is simple. They lied directly to all of us boxing fans. They misled us all and I think your defending these outright liars says something about the type of person you are
I would argue that the three Morales fights, the two Barrera fights, the three Bradley fights and four Marquez fights did more harm than benefit to Manny. It's not the right answer. One fight - one definitive outcome. That's what you got in MayPac and, frankly, in 2009 you'd have gotten a very similar outcome, but with more punches thrown by TBE.
I'm not defending anything. I'm telling you the business as it is, like it or not. Sitting there being upset about it isn't going to change it - so you have a choice. Turn on UFC and watch them pretend to be boxers or understand that boxing has evolved into a business, not a slugfest. It is what is.
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