We should NOT respect fighters that avoid VADA

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  • nacho daddy
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    #21
    when will people see that the drug testing is a joke and the results are up for sale. look at WADA....W-e A-llow D-oped A-mericans got hacked and they found penus and vagena Williams brothers and simone bile duct were using a long list of drugs and were some how allowed. biles says she has ADD which requires Ritalin but that is used to intensify concentration which is real important in her sport. the Williams brothers were on a number opiods and 4 steroids

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    • Fetta
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      #22
      This went south fast fir TS

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        #23
        Originally posted by _Maxi
        Sorry, I had responded to this from my phone and it seems it didn't send.

        My posture on HW's have been open and I've always said the same. They are all juicing. So I don't mind if they juice, as long as they don't go in life whinning that other HW's are using PEDs.

        Seems like the search is not working but I've created at least one thread talking about how I think HW's are all juicing.
        So on one hand you say we should not respect fighters that avoid VADA...but on the other hand you say you don't mind if heavyweights juice?

        You're all over the place with your opinions.

        Me personally I prefer that heavyweights be forced to undergo better testing as well. Let's be consistent with all fighters across the board.

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          #24
          Originally posted by _Maxi
          Sorry, I had responded to this from my phone and it seems it didn't send.

          My posture on HW's have been open and I've always said the same. They are all juicing. So I don't mind if they juice, as long as they don't go in life whinning that other HW's are using PEDs.

          Seems like the search is not working but I've created at least one thread talking about how I think HW's are all juicing.

          Whoa. Let me get this straight. You want a clean sport for guys below heavyweight, and you don't respect anyone who doesn't do specifically VADA testing, yet you believe it's OK for heavyweights to be dirty?

          How do you reconcile that exactly? Just because it's your opinion that they are all doing it anyway?

          Deontay Wilder completed VADA. Is it ok for him to face a dirty fighter? A number of other heavyweights have also completed VADA.

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            #25
            Originally posted by nacho daddy
            when will people see that the drug testing is a joke and the results are up for sale. look at WADA....W-e A-llow D-oped A-mericans got hacked and they found penus and vagena Williams brothers and simone bile duct were using a long list of drugs and were some how allowed. biles says she has ADD which requires Ritalin but that is used to intensify concentration which is real important in her sport. the Williams brothers were on a number opiods and 4 steroids
            This story died pretty quickly, didn't it? That's because it wasn't much of a story at all. Do you know what TUE stands for? Perhaps you should look it up one more time to make sure you understand. Just trying to help you out.

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              #26
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              So on one hand you say we should not respect fighters that avoid VADA...but on the other hand you say you don't mind if heavyweights juice?

              You're all over the place with your opinions.

              Me personally I prefer that heavyweights be forced to undergo better testing as well. Let's be consistent with all fighters across the board.
              I would also prefer for the HW to do VADA, don't get me wrong.

              I would like all of them to be clean.

              But I also have to be realistic. Just looking at their bodies it tells they are on something.

              It all comes down to who has the money to use the better drugs that are more difficult to detect, instead of the cheap ones used by othes (Tyson fury... nandrolone, really? how ****** )

              You are nuts if you think Joshua or Wlad are clean... I don't care what you say but Wilder is too big too.
              Originally posted by travestyny
              Whoa. Let me get this straight. You want a clean sport for guys below heavyweight, and you don't respect anyone who doesn't do specifically VADA testing, yet you believe it's OK for heavyweights to be dirty?

              How do you reconcile that exactly? Just because it's your opinion that they are all doing it anyway?

              Deontay Wilder completed VADA. Is it ok for him to face a dirty fighter? A number of other heavyweights have also completed VADA.
              Do us a favour and disappear from this forum.

              Wilder and Arreola started VADA testing just two weeks before their fight... that is a JOKE of testing. They are already off roids by that time. Read what I've wrote before. I want them to start at least three months before the fight.

              In similar fashion, Wlad and Tyson Fury just started VADA testing... one month before the fight. At this point they can be on a post cycle perfectly and get clean results.

              I don't want them to use steroids, but the HW's are all roided. My posture is simple, I said it, start three months before the fight, or do all year testing.

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              • _Maxi
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                #27
                Originally posted by travestyny
                This story died pretty quickly, didn't it? That's because it wasn't much of a story at all. Do you know what TUE stands for? Perhaps you should look it up one more time to make sure you understand. Just trying to help you out.
                Yeah.. embarrasing how many top athletes need amphetamines for their health.. and also stimulants for asmha and breathing problems... poor people, they are all ill

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by _Maxi
                  I would also prefer for the HW to do VADA, don't get me wrong.

                  I would like all of them to be clean.

                  But I also have to be realistic. Just looking at their bodies it tells they are on something.

                  It all comes down to who has the money to use the better drugs that are more difficult to detect, instead of the cheap ones used by othes (Tyson fury... nandrolone, really? how ****** )

                  You are nuts if you think Joshua or Wlad are clean... I don't care what you say but Wilder is too big too.

                  Do us a favour and disappear from this forum.

                  Wilder and Arreola started VADA testing just two weeks before their fight... that is a JOKE of testing. They are already off roids by that time. Read what I've wrote before. I want them to start at least three months before the fight.

                  In similar fashion, Wlad and Tyson Fury just started VADA testing... one month before the fight. At this point they can be on a post cycle perfectly and get clean results.

                  I don't want them to use steroids, but the HW's are all roided. My posture is simple, I said it, start three months before the fight, or do all year testing.
                  So actually, you don't respect Wilder, who has completed VADA testing.

                  You really are all over the place. How about you do us a favor and be consistent..or just by making some damn sense.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by _Maxi
                    Yeah.. embarrasing how many top athletes need amphetamines for their health.. and also stimulants for asmha and breathing problems... poor people, they are all ill
                    I think you are exaggerating a bit. How many athletes did the Russian group come back with? 4? Granted, that's probably because they competed in the sports that the Russian groups are likely most salty about (not sure about Women's basketball, but definitely women's gymnastics and women's tennis). This should also reveal their true agenda.

                    Not sure why people keep talking about athletes' illnesses. One was mentioned for taking (what I think was reported as a low dosage of) medication for ADHD, and the sisters were reported as taking painkillers and anti-inflammatories. Being that the records had to be hacked into, I'm not sure what other information some of you are getting and from where.

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                    • _Maxi
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by travestyny
                      So actually, you don't respect Wilder, who has completed VADA testing.

                      You really are all over the place. How about you do us a favor and be consistent..or just by making some damn sense.
                      You got owned big time, wilder did 15 days of VADA testing before his fight, a Joke.

                      From my OP:

                      WBC is finally doing something to clean up the sport FOR REAL forcing top15 fighters to use VADA.

                      VADA is not perfect but it's the best we have to clean up boxing.

                      VADA should be started at least three months before the fight. Even better, should be year round.
                      Get the **** away from here you piece of shit.

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