Your racism-free P4P list?

[Mike D]

Can you please add Spence Jr onto your list, he has a mullet..

I guess. Albeit reluctantly. I'm not really fond of how Spence stole the mullet from the white man. But whatever.

Alright here

1. GGG
2. Fury
3. Kovalev
4. Wlad
5. Frampton
6. Lee Selby
7. Povetkin
8. Scott Quigg
9. Groves
10. Spence

Honorable mention: Mike Lee

[Mike D]

Be sure to add a token Hispanic like Gonzalez as well. You'll have to get back in the basket of you're seen as Hispanaphobic

I don't know man, that's kind of pushing it. I try to keep the spectrum of races on my pound for pound list as limited as possible.

[BoxingFan85]

I guess. Albeit reluctantly. I'm not really fond of how Spence stole the mullet from the white man. But whatever.

Alright here

1. GGG
2. Fury
3. Kovalev
4. Wlad
5. Frampton
6. Lee Selby
7. Povetkin
8. Scott Quigg
9. Groves
10. Spence

Honorable mention: Mike Lee

Hey, no love for ATG Tony Bellew??

[GGG Gloveking]

So we are looking for Black fighters who have defeated White fighters, to show how physically superior the Black race is to the White race.
Now I get the point of this thread and I thought it was about the love of boxing.

Yes, now you're getting the point. I mean, you can have Fury but you'll have to take Kovalev off the list. Cant have 2 white fighters on the list, that's racist

[Mike D]

Hey, no love for ATG Tony Bellew??

well to be fair he did make my semi-honorable mentions list

[NEETzsche]

if we're purely measuring resumes then gonzalez has to be #1. he has beaten:

- three reigning titlists (niida, yaegashi, cuadras)
- two former titlists (sosa, viloria)
- four fighters who won titles after he beat them (takayama, estrada, rodriguez jr, yaegashi)

also note that takayama, estrada and rodriguez jr actually became unified titlists after their losses to gonzalez, and estrada is currently considered a top 10 pound-for-pounder by some people. also, arroyo could very well be argued to have beaten ruenruong in 2014, which would've made him a titlist too

[Citizen Koba]

It's a pretty simple thread. It's a P4P list based on having the best wins alone. So there can't be any subjective bull**** getting in the way.

I'm not understanding. You're saying a P4P list based on best opponents beaten only, not style of win (close, clear or stoppage) ignoring any loses and irrelevant of quantity (ie. does one 'A' level win rank as 2 or 3 or 5 'B' level wins). How do you compensate for exposure bias? What about fighters (eg RJJ) who are past prime but have outstanding wins on their records? It would help me give a rational response if you could clarify a little.