Lomachenko is no P4P fighter

[BoxingFan85]

This whole p4p crap goes round and round. P4P is'nt based on resume, its simply a fantasy matchup between fighters if you could make them the same size, and who you think does best in that scenario. If you want to use a persons resume to break down matchups so be it, but thinking p4p is somehow all about resume is some modern horse **** that people think if they spout it enough it is true. It is'nt. No point in a p4p list if you are just going to base it off resume, you could just call it the most accomplished fighter or some ****. Most p4p lists use a combination of skill/resume, but whatever floats your boat I suppose.

Well said! Cheers!

[Godsfly]

Does the threadstarter hate Lomachenko for the same reason he hates Golovkin?

does freedom hate crawford, ward, mayweather, rigo, lara, for the same reason he hates wilder?


u hate more then anyone around here......can't talk.

[Sun_Tzu]

You are pretty dense if you think the majority of white people automatically root for someone because they are white. I got news for you, outside of a small percentage of a$$holes white people could give a *** about what color an athlete is. The only thing they care about is if they are entertained for the most part and if the guy/gal is a decent person thats a definite plus. This **** you guys got rolling around here is asinine.

[BoxingFan85]

wbo literally has the worst champions, rankings, and least notoriety

its not like he fought murderer's row

the talent is their but the resume is not......also you cant just ignore he lost to Salido, who is a solid top ten 130 pounder but far from a p4p elite guy

If he unifies at 130 then he deserves it but as of today, their are just too many fighters who've fought better comp with comparable skills.

I go back and forth on the topic, at least I did at one point. He has p4p talent but I'll wait to put him there with conviction until he beats Salido and unifies.

Ok I agree but not completely.. If you leave Manny out of top 10(because of retirement) Who else do you have?

Here is my list though:
1. Chocolatito
2. Kovalev
3. GGG
4. Crawford
5. Rigondeaux
6. Ward
7. Lomachenko
8. Frampton
9. Fury
10. Lebedev

[BillyBoxing]

wbo literally has the worst champions, rankings, and least notoriety

its not like he fought murderer's row

the talent is their but the resume is not......also you cant just ignore he lost to Salido, who is a solid top ten 130 pounder but far from a p4p elite guy

If he unifies at 130 then he deserves it but as of today, their are just too many fighters who've fought better comp with comparable skills.

I go back and forth on the topic, at least I did at one point. He has p4p talent but I'll wait to put him there with conviction until he beats Salido and unifies.

Yet, you ignore it was his second pro fight, Salido didn't make weight, and it was a SD.

At the end of the day, getting a SD in your second pro fight vs a top 10 if not top 5 of the division is more an accomplishment than a shame.

[BillyBoxing]

You are pretty dense if you think the majority of white people automatically root for someone because they are white. I got news for you, outside of a small percentage of a$$holes white people could give a *** about what color an athlete is. The only thing they care about is if they are entertained for the most part and if the guy/gal is a decent person thats a definite plus. This **** you guys got rolling around here is asinine.

I wouldn't say the same about the demografic...

[Hype job]

does freedom hate crawford, ward, mayweather, rigo, lara, for the same reason he hates wilder?


u hate more then anyone around here......can't talk.

Golovkin ruined your life

[The Hammer]

does freedom hate crawford, ward, mayweather, rigo, lara, for the same reason he hates wilder?


u hate more then anyone around here......can't talk.

I've never posted anything negative about Crawford, Lara, or Rigo. I've been wanting to see GGG vs. Lara and Loma vs. Rigo.

Wilder is an arrogant overrated phony, a lot of people dislike him. I'd love to see Joshua knock him out.

Ward is a smug, very protected, stay-at-home cheating prima donna.

Floyd beats up woman and was very protected - he refused to fight outside the USA all his pro career. He was given gift decisions (for example Castillo I) and he avoided the best boxers when they were in their prime.

[Weltschmerz]

Lomachenko is no P4P fighter. You don't get to the top 10 list for losing to Salido and beating Russel Jr. I see many in here rate Lomachenko as one of the top 10 P4P boxers in the world. I know he's white and skilled, but pull yourself together, please. His resume is NOTHING. And yes, I know it's nothing because he has only had 7 fights. But nothing because of something is still nothing. And you don't become a P4P top 10 based on nothing (and no, skill color and amateur background shouldn't affect your P4P ranking neither). And no, it's not enough to just look impressive. Wilder looks impressive when fighting bums. You have to look impressive against GOOD opponents and if you got a loss to Salido, you better start racking up some good wins to make people forget that.

Just ask to have your account deleted already.

[sicko]

Totally Disagree! I think Loma can one day BE #1 P4P and I think he beats the **** out of Salido in a rematch and I think Salido knows that

Loma don't get the hype as others do because he is a smaller guy and he doesn't have great Power but Loma is far more skilled than most of the guys who gets more hype than he does. Just not sure what Arum will do without HBO now, that is a bit of a concern for guys like Loma and Crawford

But as far as Skills, give me Loma all day over most and I think he has the talent to be P4P KING in the sport one day