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  • #51
    Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
    Wrong. He said even if he got offered 3 mil, why would he fight GGG for three mil when he could just fight "two Quillins" instead because GGG is so good, he's more of a risk than fighting Quillin twice lol.
    How is what I said wrong? I said he wasn't asking for absurd money like 10 million that i see people on here claiming. When i mentioned 2 or 2.5 that was what I think is reasonable, not what Jacobs said

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    • #52
      Originally posted by TheCell8 View Post
      When Plan A didn't work (The Eubanks playing hardball), they went to plan B which was a big named fighter from the UK willing to step up.

      Loeffler is honest and easy to work with.
      Oh yeah, he's REAL honest, just ask him what he offered BJS

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      • #53
        How much do you think Jacobs will ask to sign? 10 Quillins?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
          How is what I said wrong? I said he wasn't asking for absurd money like 10 million that i see people on here claiming. When i mentioned 2 or 2.5 that was what I think is reasonable, not what Jacobs said
          2 - 2.5 million is "reasonable"??????

          man what are you smoking. Can you point out a single example of a non-heavyweight mandatory challenger with no fanbase getting paid over 2 million dollars??

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
            How is what I said wrong? I said he wasn't asking for absurd money like 10 million that i see people on here claiming. When i mentioned 2 or 2.5 that was what I think is reasonable, not what Jacobs said
            You specifically said he probably just wanted more than his career high payday. You mentioned his career high payday, 1.5 mil, then extrapolated that therefore 2 mil or 2.5 mil would be a reasonable raise for the biggest fight of his career so far.

            That is not accurate. He specifically stated that a career high payday is not enough. Even double a career high payday is not enough, because GGG is so damn good, he expects to get a retirement check. My impression reading his quotes was that he is looking for 4.5-5 mil minimum, perhaps as much as 7 mil.

            Jacobs is a good dude, and I hope they find a way to get him 4 mil for the fight. The problem is the #s he brings in don't really warrant that, but maybe his talent combined with GGG's talent will create a matchup that does, combined with GGG's star power, that will generate enough $ for Jacobs to get that if GGG gives him a generous split. The point is simply that we have to acknowledge that GGG is so good, Jacobs does not want to fight him for what you were talking about, which was simply a fair deal, a career high payday. Jacobs wants crazy money because he sees GGG as such a threat. Not 10 mil crazy money, sure, but still crazy money. It really seemed like he was talking about 5 mil minimum, which probably is not possible, so then what happens to the fight? Jacobs gets to just keep ducking and claim it was about the money?

            No he is getting offered at least double his career high... he is not a champ... he is not undefeated not that that matters except I'll bring it up only if a fighter is making unrealistic demands... He should take as much money as he can get, but he should also take the most money that is available and make the fight since it is already going to be more than double his career high, plus it's a high opportunity. GGG is bringing three belts. He is bringing no real ones. He beats GGG, suddenly he is sitting pretty, and suddenly he is the big B-side for the Canelo superfight next year, and he's making even more money. Then he beats Canelo and he is boxing's next star, and can start pulling in 10 mil for his PPVs.

            Imagine what beating GGG and Canelo would do for Jacobs career? And that opportunity all starts with accepting double your career high payday to also get a shot at 3 belts. It's a win win for Jacobs except for the fact the opportunity and money comes against GGG, which is the point.

            These fighters are still so scared of GGG that even when he can offer a shot at 3 belts, and double career high money, they're still ducking him.

            Remember when he started, everyone used the excuse to duck him that he had nothing to offer? They said they weren't scared of him, he just didn't offer a good payday, there wasn't a reason to fight him.

            Now he offers three belts, and double career high money... they still won't fight him.

            Huh. Maybe they really were just scared of him the whole damn time.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
              2 - 2.5 million is "reasonable"??????

              man what are you smoking. Can you point out a single example of a non-heavyweight mandatory challenger with no fanbase getting paid over 2 million dollars??
              He made 1.5 for Quillin, how is making more for a bigger fight not reasonable? 2 mil is reasonable considering he made 1.5 for a lesser fight. Is he supposed to take less than what his highest purse has been just because we want to see the fight? Not everyone is Kovalev and willing to take 500K

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              • #57
                The reality is, GGG isn't being held hostage in the middleweight division because Saunders, Canelo, or anybody else won't fight him. If unification is his goal. There's no rule that says he can't look outside of the top guys in his divsion while he's waiting. And return to 60 when the opportunity presents itself. He was willing to look down two divisions for Brook. In a fight that did absolutely nothing for his legacy. He should be just as willing to look up the scale. If he plans on fighting in November. Why not try and snatch a belt at 68 if he doesn't get one of the guys he wants? He can always drop back to 60 when he's done. Win or lose.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                  You specifically said he probably just wanted more than his career high payday. You mentioned his career high payday, 1.5 mil, then extrapolated that therefore 2 mil or 2.5 mil would be a reasonable raise for the biggest fight of his career so far.

                  That is not accurate. He specifically stated that a career high payday is not enough. Even double a career high payday is not enough, because GGG is so damn good, he expects to get a retirement check. My impression reading his quotes was that he is looking for 4.5-5 mil minimum, perhaps as much as 7 mil.

                  Jacobs is a good dude, and I hope they find a way to get him 4 mil for the fight. The problem is the #s he brings in don't really warrant that, but maybe his talent combined with GGG's talent will create a matchup that does, combined with GGG's star power, that will generate enough $ for Jacobs to get that if GGG gives him a generous split. The point is simply that we have to acknowledge that GGG is so good, Jacobs does not want to fight him for what you were talking about, which was simply a fair deal, a career high payday. Jacobs wants crazy money because he sees GGG as such a threat. Not 10 mil crazy money, sure, but still crazy money. It really seemed like he was talking about 5 mil minimum, which probably is not possible, so then what happens to the fight? Jacobs gets to just keep ducking and claim it was about the money?

                  No he is getting offered at least double his career high... he is not a champ... he is not undefeated not that that matters except I'll bring it up only if a fighter is making unrealistic demands... He should take as much money as he can get, but he should also take the most money that is available and make the fight since it is already going to be more than double his career high, plus it's a high opportunity. GGG is bringing three belts. He is bringing no real ones. He beats GGG, suddenly he is sitting pretty, and suddenly he is the big B-side for the Canelo superfight next year, and he's making even more money. Then he beats Canelo and he is boxing's next star, and can start pulling in 10 mil for his PPVs.

                  Imagine what beating GGG and Canelo would do for Jacobs career? And that opportunity all starts with accepting double your career high payday to also get a shot at 3 belts. It's a win win for Jacobs except for the fact the opportunity and money comes against GGG, which is the point.

                  These fighters are still so scared of GGG that even when he can offer a shot at 3 belts, and double career high money, they're still ducking him.

                  Remember when he started, everyone used the excuse to duck him that he had nothing to offer? They said they weren't scared of him, he just didn't offer a good payday, there wasn't a reason to fight him.

                  Now he offers three belts, and double career high money... they still won't fight him.

                  Huh. Maybe they really were just scared of him the whole damn time.
                  Dude i said 2 or 2.5 according to me is enough as it is higher than his career high. That is what I would consider reasonable, not Jacobs. I never said Jacobs or anyone associated with him considers that amount ok. If he was offered 2 or 2.5 and didn't take it I would consider it a price out, as it would be higher than his best, not to mention he would be the man at 160 and hold every belt aside from the WBO. Cause let's be honest, he isn't a real champ right now.

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                  • #59
                    I just hope Jacobs doesn't try to price himself out, and then duck it before it gets to purse bids.

                    He has to be realistic on what he earns for this fight. I don't know what Golovkin made v Brook but before that i'm sure his highest purse was around $3m or a bit less. If that's the case, Jacobs can't realistically get much more than $1.5m.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by TheCell8 View Post
                      When Plan A didn't work (The Eubanks playing hardball), they went to plan B which was a big named fighter from the UK willing to step up.

                      Loeffler is honest and easy to work with.
                      No! He's cheap as ***!!! He's DOESN'T negotiate it's his way or NO way! He's a flat-out liar.

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