Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Looks To Jacobs - as WBA Orders The Fight!

[speakthetruth]

why floyd fought way better competition then ggg and not just cause people are avoiding ggg either

floyd did fight the biggest names out there and won.

[Elroy The Great]

What do you need links for, dummy? How the fcuk could you miss this, it's like 2 weeks old:

http://www.boxingscene.com/jacobs-il...-money--108136

goober, i meant links to no network shelling out 4mil. i guess somethings has to be spelled out

[HeroBando]

goober, i meant links to no network shelling out 4mil. i guess somethings has to be spelled out

You want me to tally 100s of fight purses to prove to you something that everyone that follows boxing knows? How about you find 1 in the past 10 years with a 4m+ license fee? Or how about using some common sense?

[Elroy The Great]

You want me to tally 100s of fight purses to prove to you something that everyone that follows boxing knows? How about you find 1 in the past 10 years with a 4m+ license fee? Or how about using some common sense?

a couple of links will do

[Scipio2009]

To put things into perspective, a bid of $6m earns Jacobs' "Quillin money" and he has already knocked that back

A bid of $6m earns Jacobs "Quillin money" plus the upside on the event that'll be pushed by DiBella Entertainment/Showtime.

Not sure how aggressively DiBella would end up pricing the event, but I have no doubt that he'll be able to sell out the full Barclays Center for the fight. With Showtime likely pushing the fight with 3 episodes of 'All Access' (two in camp, and the epilogue), with the added benefit of the fight also likely getting some attention in the PBC orbit and the New York media circuit/ESPN, the PPV isn't going to do poorly either.

You add K2 paying DiBella to get the rights to the German/Ukraine/Eastern European TV, the value of the other international TV rights, the sponsorships, and other revenues and Jacobs is in line to make well more than "Quillin money" on the upside of the event.

$2m-$3m at the live gate at Barclays Center, easily $15m off of the PPV (300k PPV buys at $50; net out the money to the distributors/Showtime and you'd still have $7m heading into the pot.), the sponsors, the international TV, and other revenues on one side, with the $6m bid cost for the event, plus the costs related to even staging the event on the other side and you've pretty comfortably netted out a good-sized gain on the full event (which DiBella and Jacobs will end up sharing).

[Scipio2009]

Jacobs career high purse was something like 1.5m for the Quillen fight and he doesn't want to risk fighting GGG for ONLY 3m when he can fight 2 Quillens for the same amount. DJ wants life-altering money to step in with GGG so I can see him pricing himself out if he doesn't get big money. Jacobs called this a mega-fight !!

The fight is already scheduled for purse bids (if you actually think the negotiations are heading anywhere, lol), and Jacobs and his camp seem to view the Golovkin fight as being bigger than Golovkin and his camp.

No different than the Stevenson-Kovalev talks once the bids were scheduled, if Golovkin and his camp walk away, I'd hope that the venom gets placed where it's supposed to be.

In case you missed it, for Jacobs' camp anyway, Golovkin-Jacobs is a mega-fight! The Brooklyn-born, top American middleweight and arguably #2 middleweight in the world, taking on the #1 middleweight "boogeyman", in his home venue, for a chance at being seen as the top middleweight fighter on the planet, is a big deal.

Win or lose, that's the biggest fight that Jacobs and his camp can dream of happening (vs Lee/Saunders/EubankJr are all lesser fights, and even a Quillin rematch wouldn't bring that type of energy to Barclays Center). It's "fish or cut bait time" for Jacobs, imo; if K2 isn't going to put up the money, I have no doubt that DiBella will have things in position to see if that money is even out there for Jacobs.

[Scipio2009]

Hey you were confused about weight limits so I'm not surprised this is way beyond your reach. But Cliffs notes:. No network is ever paying out 4m in purses, not even for much more competitive fights. This would require tons more, per Jacobs "wait a minute, I could fight 2 Quillins". Need more hints?

If I'm not mistaken, the Jacobs-Quillin fight card likely rather comfortably had payouts of $4m in purses; between Showtime Championship Boxing and SHOExtreme, I'm fairly certain that Showtime aired five fights from that card (Jacobs-Quillin, Cuellar-Oquendo, Algieri-Bone, Browne-Sierra, and Rosnisky-Smith Jr).

How much of that came from Showtime (and not other revenue sources) is beyond me, but don't act like the money can't be found. Heck, Alvarez-Kirkland happened on HBO and that fight had a rumored payout of nearly $5m to the main event fighters.

Add up the pieces before saying that such a payout is impossible. What are the German TV rights to Golovkin-Jacobs worth to K2? What type of live gate does DiBella think he can draw for Golovkin-Jacobs at a likely sold out Barclays Center? What are the TV rights to Jacobs's shot at superstardom worth to Showtime/CBS, and how does that weigh against the risk/reward of putting Golovkin-Jacobs on PPV? What is the sponsorship interest in the fight going to look like in New York, what are the other international TV deals worth (and is there anything that could be added to the card to make them worth more)? What type of merch money is Golovkin-Jacobs going to draw? etc.

control is a beautiful thing

[elgu]

The fight is already scheduled for purse bids (if you actually think the negotiations are heading anywhere, lol), and Jacobs and his camp seem to view the Golovkin fight as being bigger than Golovkin and his camp.

No different than the Stevenson-Kovalev talks once the bids were scheduled, if Golovkin and his camp walk away, I'd hope that the venom gets placed where it's supposed to be.

In case you missed it, for Jacobs' camp anyway, Golovkin-Jacobs is a mega-fight! The Brooklyn-born, top American middleweight and arguably #2 middleweight in the world, taking on the #1 middleweight "boogeyman", in his home venue, for a chance at being seen as the top middleweight fighter on the planet, is a big deal.

Win or lose, that's the biggest fight that Jacobs and his camp can dream of happening (vs Lee/Saunders/EubankJr are all lesser fights, and even a Quillin rematch wouldn't bring that type of energy to Barclays Center). It's "fish or cut bait time" for Jacobs, imo; if K2 isn't going to put up the money, I have no doubt that DiBella will have things in position to see if that money is even out there for Jacobs.

Jacobs and his camp are now pretending to want the fight but everyone can see whats going on. About a month ago Jacobs was babbling about how the fight was about a year and a half from getting done and that it needed marinating, and that he wanted 4-5 million. Now all of a sudden he wants it? They're just bluffing because theres a bid involved.

GGG has an exclusive contract, just like kovalev did. HBO isnt into wasting money, haymon can because its not his money and he hasn't run out of other people's money(although he soon will). So jacobs team is now pretending to want the fight.

Al probably said "don't worry jacobs, hbo will back out, they cant pay unjustifiable purses like i can. We can bluff that we will bid 100 million dollars and it wont matter because even if we won such a ridiculous bid the fight wouldnt happen because GGG has an exclusive contract. So go ahead and call ggg out jacobs. It wont happen and i have your next 2 mora level fighters lined up."

[HeroBando]

If I'm not mistaken, the Jacobs-Quillin fight card likely rather comfortably had payouts of $4m in purses; between Showtime Championship Boxing and SHOExtreme, I'm fairly certain that Showtime aired five fights from that card (Jacobs-Quillin, Cuellar-Oquendo, Algieri-Bone, Browne-Sierra, and Rosnisky-Smith Jr).

How much of that came from Showtime (and not other revenue sources) is beyond me, but don't act like the money can't be found. Heck, Alvarez-Kirkland happened on HBO and that fight had a rumored payout of nearly $5m to the main event fighters.

Add up the pieces before saying that such a payout is impossible. What are the German TV rights to Golovkin-Jacobs worth to K2? What type of live gate does DiBella think he can draw for Golovkin-Jacobs at a likely sold out Barclays Center? What are the TV rights to Jacobs's shot at superstardom worth to Showtime/CBS, and how does that weigh against the risk/reward of putting Golovkin-Jacobs on PPV? What is the sponsorship interest in the fight going to look like in New York, what are the other international TV deals worth (and is there anything that could be added to the card to make them worth more)? What type of merch money is Golovkin-Jacobs going to draw? etc.

control is a beautiful thing

No it didn't, that was 3m for the main event and that bombed huge. No 4m license fee on any network

You already forgot all the lessons you got yesterday eh

[Scipio2009]

Jacobs and his camp are now pretending to want the fight but everyone can see whats going on. About a month ago Jacobs was babbling about how the fight was about a year and a half from getting done and that it needed marinating, and that he wanted 4-5 million. Now all of a sudden he wants it? They're just bluffing because theres a bid involved.

GGG has an exclusive contract, just like kovalev did. HBO isnt into wasting money, haymon can because its not his money and he hasn't run out of other people's money(although he soon will). So jacobs team is now pretending to want the fight.

Al probably said "don't worry jacobs, hbo will back out, they cant pay unjustifiable purses like i can. We can bluff that we will bid 100 million dollars and it wont matter because even if we won such a ridiculous bid the fight wouldnt happen because GGG has an exclusive contract. So go ahead and call ggg out jacobs. It wont happen and i have your next 2 mora level fighters lined up."

With Golovkin not being the challenger, he and his camp are left with a simple choice, put up the money to bring Daniel Jacobs to HBO for the fight (with K2 likely to go MSG/HBOPPV/German TV, Golovkin's entire take will likely be hedged on the upside of the event), or vacate the belt when DiBella/Haymon win the bid, ending the "I want all the belts at 160lbs" silliness (bid is in October, Jacobs wants to fight sometime in December in Brooklyn, and the timing makes both the Golovkin fight and a vacant title fight against possibly Alfonso Blanco/Rob Brant/Dmitry Chudinov viable, setting the stage for Daniel Jacobs to also be in the options for Billy Joe Saunders for early 2017).

Golovkin and his camp have known that they've been outfoxed for a while now. Unfortunately, there's nary away out any longer; either the pay Saunders what he's asking (to delay the mandatory again), they pay Jacobs to bring the fight over, or DiBella/Haymon pull out the wallet and shatter the image that K2/HBO have been trying to push for four years to the boxing public.

Cry about it all you want, the outcome is already pretty well known (note: The bid for Golovkin-Jacobs, at least on Haymon's end, won't be anywhere near $100m, and is doesn't have to be. Golovkin has shown that there are holes in his game, and Jacobs winning the fight should pay back whatever the costs of the find end up being, in short order.)

If Golovkin vacates the belt, hopefully you give him the same **** that you gave other folks for vacating belts.