Comments Thread For: Gennady Golovkin 167.8, Kell Brook 168 - IBF's Fight Day Weighin

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  • sicko
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    #51
    Originally posted by frantic fighter
    I think guys can still safely make their way 15 plus over the weight, if they chose to. You have to think,they're giving them 10 lbs by the next morning at let's say 5:30,meaning they usually have 15 plus hours to put on additional weight.
    Good point, we shall see how things play out and how heavy both are come fight time

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    • frantic fighter
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      #52
      Originally posted by Jubei
      WTF are you even talking about? GGG walks around at 170 and is always about 165 one month away from the fight and about 163 a week before the fight.

      On fight night he is about 169-172. Last time he was 168.5 in the morning and on fight night he was 170. (Against Lemieux)

      Other bigger MWs walk around at 180 and rehydrate to 175. Canelo fighting at 155 rehydrates 20+ lb, while GGG who fights at 160 gains about 10lb which is - compared to other fighters at 160 - relatively low. GGG said he could still make 154, he possibly wouldnt be at his best and it makes no sense since he is the unified MW champ and 160 is his best weight, but he is by no means a big MW or struggles at all.

      He'll be doing fine at 168 but he will look tiny vs the bigger guys at 168. Did you see how Murray looked tiny vs Groves? While Murray was bigger than GGG.
      Golovkin has had some type of size advantage over most of his foes since he came to America. Lemuix, Stevens, Monroe, Brook,Geale,Rosado,Macklin were all either shorter in stature or moving up in weight. Golovkin has fought at middle or higher since the ams, he isn't a small middle by any stretch of the imagination.

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      • frantic fighter
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        #53
        Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
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        He was 67 thirty days out. 62 seven days out.

        GGG is not struggling to make MW. You bringing that up is likely just wishful thinking.

        GGG was fine yesterday, he was fine last night, and he'll be his normal 171 in the ring tonight.
        When Ward was only rehydrating 8lbs up as a middle,his trainer was still saying that they have to make a lot of sacrifices to make the weight. He isn't Sergio,who would only rehydrate 5 lbs, he is a career middle with a huge frame.

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        • oscar9992
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          #54
          Originally posted by frantic fighter
          Golovkin has had some type of size advantage over most of his foes since he came to America. Lemuix, Stevens, Monroe, Brook,Geale,Rosado,Macklin were all either shorter in stature or moving up in weight. Golovkin has fought at middle or higher since the ams, he isn't a small middle by any stretch of the imagination.
          Nonsense... Lemieus and Stevens were alot heavier than GGG... Lemieux was 175 vs GGG's 165 month and week before the fight. Stevens was former lightheavyweight...

          On other hand Canelo is fighting guys alot lighter and smaller than him... He walks around 180+ lbs.

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            #55
            So did GGG cut weight before the 30 day to try and make this seem like "Brook is bigger"?

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              #56
              Originally posted by oscar9992
              Nonsense... Lemieus and Stevens were alot heavier than GGG... Lemieux was 175 vs GGG's 165 month and week before the fight. Stevens was former lightheavyweight...

              On other hand Canelo is fighting guys alot lighter and smaller than him... He walks around 180+ lbs.
              Can you read? I said some type of size advantage,either weight wise or height wise. He towered over both of those guys. Also Sam Soliman had fights at cruiser and Shawn Porter had fights at super middle,so I guess that both of those guys are also larger than Golovkin.

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                #57
                Originally posted by frantic fighter
                Can you read? I said some type of size advantage,either weight wise or height wise. He towered over both of those guys. Also Sam Soliman had fights at cruiser and Shawn Porter had fights at super middle,so I guess that both of those guys are also larger than Golovkin.
                GGG always seems bigger and stronger and it's not so much his weight. He's so active that he's constantly in close to fighting shape. People forget guys are usually fighting twice a year and GGG fights 3 and is constantly lined up for a fight. You can be lighter and still be naturally bigger people don't seem to understand that. If you think GGG is a small middle you have an agenda. Sergio was a small middle. He wasnt even a huge 54 either

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by frantic fighter
                  Golovkin has had some type of size advantage over most of his foes since he came to America. Lemuix, Stevens, Monroe, Brook,Geale,Rosado,Macklin were all either shorter in stature or moving up in weight. Golovkin has fought at middle or higher since the ams, he isn't a small middle by any stretch of the imagination.
                  You are just ******ed man, GGG fought at 141 in the amateurs at age 18,19.
                  Geale, Monroe, Murray, Stevens smaller than GGG? Stevens fought at LHW early in his career, Geale started his career at 160 and now fights at 168 because he cant make the weight. Monroe is a career MW.
                  Murray is also bigger than GGG, and is fighting at 168 now.

                  When Gennady Golovkin was 18 years old he fought at Light Welterweight (141lb) in the amateurs.




                  Andre Ward fought at Middleweight (165lb) and Light Heavyweight (176lb) in the amateurs at the age of 18.
                  When Ward turned pro, he had a couple fights at MW (160lb)



                  When Canelo was 18 years old, Canelo fought at Welterweight in the Pros. (147lb)


                  When Kell Brook was 18 years old, Brook fought at Welterweight (147lb) in the Pros.



                  There is that myth that some fighters moved up alot in weight and some others did not.
                  Golovkin was in the Kazakh amateur program and didn't turn pro until age 24.
                  Ward turned pro at Age 20.
                  Brook and Canelo were already in the Professinal Rankings at age 18.

                  Summary
                  Age 18 and now, how much did each fighter move up?

                  Golovkin 141lb > 160, moved up 19lb
                  Ward 165-176lb > 168-175, moved up 0lb
                  Brook 147lb > 147-160, moved up 13lb
                  Canelo 147lb > 154-155, moved up 8lb


                  Ward, after turning pro, had a couple fights at MW (160lb), which would put Ward at moving up 15lb from his lowest weight.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Eastcoast
                    First off this is normal for Golovkin. His IBF morning weigh-in vs Lemieux was 168.6lbs.
                    The final hurdle was cleared in moving forward with tonight's middleweight title unification bout between Gennady Golovkin and David Lemieux. Both fighters were with within regulations for the International Boxing Federation (IBF) same-day weight check ahead of their HBO Pay-Per-View headliner at Madison Square Garden in New York City (Saturday, 9:00 p.m. ET, $49.95 SRP). All boxers fighting in an IBF-sanctioned fight are required to weigh in the morning of the bout, where they cannot gain more than 10 lbs. above the contracted limit. For this fight, the middleweights were required to weigh no more than 170 lbs. Golovkin tipped the scales at 168.6 lbs. during this morning's weight check, while Lemieux weighed 169.2 lbs.


                    Second off, there's zero sign he's struggling with his weight b/c everything's the same as it's always been. The majority of his fights he weighs in at 159.0lbs. Vs Murray in Monaco he was 158.9lbs, that's 0.1lbs heavier than he was for Brook.

                    As far as how he looks flat - biorhythm/time change. The weigh-in was 1pm UK time which is 5am Los Angeles time. His body is normally asleep then.
                    He looks worse tho, maybe a sign of aging. Gets harder to cut weight as you get older.

                    But maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. Maybe GGG will look the same as ever in the ring, where it matters.

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                      #60
                      Why are people complaining about him weighing 170+? Freakin JMW's weigh more than that on fight night

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