Comments Thread For: Roach: I'm Glad We Got Vargas Instead of Crawford at This Point

[hugh grant]

While Floyd was fighting the Guererros and Maidanas, Pac was fighting the Rios' and Algieris of the world!

Come on now, PAC was coming off of ko loss!
When Floyd fought jmm and bloated him up 2 divisions the excuse was Floyd was vcoming off layoff? But its clkear Floyd fights bums regardless and don't challenge himself, why else fight berto? Floyd hadn't had lay off!

[Spoon23]

Thanx for the video. Definitely makes a case.

Yep, it sure does!

[Bronx2245]

Come on now, PAC was coming off of ko loss!
When Floyd fought jmm and bloated him up 2 divisions the excuse was Floyd was vcoming off layoff? But its clkear Floyd fights bums regardless and don't challenge himself, why else fight berto? Floyd hadn't had lay off!

That same bum, JMM, what did he do to Pacquiao? Berto was his fight to close out his deal with Showtime and retire undefeated! Rios was coming off a loss to Alvarado @ 140, so why not Alvarado @ 147, instead of Rios @ 147? Why did Pacquiao fight Chris Algieri? He had just beaten Bradley, so why Algieri, another Jr. WW? Floyd is held to much higher standard than Pacquiao, which is why I'm glad he beat Pacquiao, and it's in the books forever!

[hugh grant]

That same bum, JMM, what did he do to Pacquiao? Berto was his fight to close out his deal with Showtime and retire undefeated! Rios was coming off a loss to Alvarado @ 140, so why not Alvarado @ 147, instead of Rios @ 147? Why did Pacquiao fight Chris Algieri? He had just beaten Bradley, so why Algieri, another Jr. WW? Floyd is held to much higher standard than Pacquiao, which is why I'm glad he beat Pacquiao, and it's in the books forever!

PAC fights twice as much as Floyd so should be allowed to have an Alfieri or Rios in there for a breather.

Floyd fights berto, Guerrero, Ortiz guys as routine and habits he cant break.
PAC is held to far higher stanbstanbdards thanfloyd. That's why Floyd can fight berto whilst PAC can't fight Garcia, even though PAC just beat bradley. They want PAC to fight Spence, not Garcia.

[Bronx2245]

PAC fights twice as much as Floyd so should be allowed to have an Alfieri or Rios in there for a breather.

Floyd fights berto, Guerrero, Ortiz guys as routine and habits he cant break.
PAC is held to far higher stanbstanbdards thanfloyd. That's why Floyd can fight berto whilst PAC can't fight Garcia, even though PAC just beat bradley. They want PAC to fight Spence, not Garcia.

First of all Freddie Roach has been calling for Danny Garcia, even before Pacquiao fought Bradley the first time! Secondly, Freddie wanted Guererro after Floyd beat him! Lastly, Floyd beat Guererro, Ortiz, and Pacquiao, all WW champions! What do they all have in common? They're all southpaws. Which southpaw champion has Pacquiao fought @ 147? And who said "they" want Pac to fight Spence Jr.? Everyone wanted Pacquiao to fight Terence Crawford, which is why Roach is commenting on it!

[PunchyPotorff]

That same bum, JMM, what did he do to Pacquiao? Berto was his fight to close out his deal with Showtime and retire undefeated! Rios was coming off a loss to Alvarado @ 140, so why not Alvarado @ 147, instead of Rios @ 147? Why did Pacquiao fight Chris Algieri? He had just beaten Bradley, so why Algieri, another Jr. WW? Floyd is held to much higher standard than Pacquiao, which is why I'm glad he beat Pacquiao, and it's in the books forever!

So many triangle theories, so little time. Ha

Seriously, there are so many more reasons to be in the Pac camp than the Floydie camp. You remember Floydie, the rich guy who was finally caught with an IV, and who is so rich and such a 'bank-that-can't-fail' to Vegas that he avoided further hot water. And Floydie consistently avoided anything but the easiest fights in his final years of being active, and even then, made the fighters pass thru the eye of a needle with the restrictions (Maidana's gloves, JMM size differential, Joe Cortez etc etc). And don't come back with 'they agreed blah blah blah'. Who wouldn't reluctantly agree to a big paycheck? But the biggest reason IMO to like Pac more than Floydie would have to be how boring Floydie's fights are compared to Pac's. It's no contest. And I've seen some times when supposed fans of the science of boxing would dismiss other technical performances as boring... yet not dismiss the typical Floydie performance which played out the exact same way. And it isn't a stretch to see Floydie is basically a low classed whiny thug in many instances... while Pac has been a humanitarian for several years, AND a good example for any kids who may look up to him like kids often do with sports icons. Talent wise, both fighters are at a similar level. Class? No contest. Pac wins every time.

[Bronx2245]

So many triangle theories, so little time. Ha

Seriously, there are so many more reasons to be in the Pac camp than the Floydie camp. You remember Floydie, the rich guy who was finally caught with an IV, and who is so rich and such a 'bank-that-can't-fail' to Vegas that he avoided further hot water. And Floydie consistently avoided anything but the easiest fights in his final years of being active, and even then, made the fighters pass thru the eye of a needle with the restrictions (Maidana's gloves, JMM size differential, Joe Cortez etc etc). And don't come back with 'they agreed blah blah blah'. Who wouldn't reluctantly agree to a big paycheck? But the biggest reason IMO to like Pac more than Floydie would have to be how boring Floydie's fights are compared to Pac's. It's no contest. And I've seen some times when supposed fans of the science of boxing would dismiss other technical performances as boring... yet not dismiss the typical Floydie performance which played out the exact same way. And it isn't a stretch to see Floydie is basically a low classed whiny thug in many instances... while Pac has been a humanitarian for several years, AND a good example for any kids who may look up to him like kids often do with sports icons. Talent wise, both fighters are at a similar level. Class? No contest. Pac wins every time.

If Floyd fights Oscar @ 154. Oscar is washed up. Pac fights Oscar @ 147, Pac had a great win! Floyd beats Hatton in 2007, Hatton was washed up! Pacquiao beats Hatton in 2009, Pac had a great win! Floyd beats Mosely in 2010, Mosely was washed up! Pacquiao beats Mosely in 2011, Pac had a great win! Pacquiao beats Margarito @ 150, awesome victory! Floyd beats Canelo @ 152, Canelo was weight drained! Floyd beats Guererro in 2013, it was a mismatch! Pacquiao beats Rios in 2013, great win! Floyd beat Maidana in 2014, it was a mismatch! Pacquiao fights Algieri in 2014, great win! You can admire Pacquiao for being a "good guy," "great character," "humanitarian," "exciting fighter," etc., but Floyd was a much better "boxer!' NO CONTEST!

[Bronx2245]

So many triangle theories, so little time. Ha

Seriously, there are so many more reasons to be in the Pac camp than the Floydie camp. You remember Floydie, the rich guy who was finally caught with an IV, and who is so rich and such a 'bank-that-can't-fail' to Vegas that he avoided further hot water. And Floydie consistently avoided anything but the easiest fights in his final years of being active, and even then, made the fighters pass thru the eye of a needle with the restrictions (Maidana's gloves, JMM size differential, Joe Cortez etc etc). And don't come back with 'they agreed blah blah blah'. Who wouldn't reluctantly agree to a big paycheck? But the biggest reason IMO to like Pac more than Floydie would have to be how boring Floydie's fights are compared to Pac's. It's no contest. And I've seen some times when supposed fans of the science of boxing would dismiss other technical performances as boring... yet not dismiss the typical Floydie performance which played out the exact same way. And it isn't a stretch to see Floydie is basically a low classed whiny thug in many instances... while Pac has been a humanitarian for several years, AND a good example for any kids who may look up to him like kids often do with sports icons. Talent wise, both fighters are at a similar level. Class? No contest. Pac wins every time.

Oh, I almost forgot, Roach says Pacquiao was given "suspect shakes" by Ariza, Pac is clean! Floyd hires Ariza, and gets a "suspect IV" Floyd is dirty! Another double standard!

[Spoon23]

Oh, I almost forgot, Roach says Pacquiao was given "suspect shakes" by Ariza, Pac is clean! Floyd hires Ariza, and gets a "suspect IV" Floyd is dirty! Another double standard!

Everyone knows the good stuff is inserted through a needle.

IVS is where the good stuff are not protein shakes.




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[Bronx2245]

Everyone knows the good stuff is inserted through a needle.

IVS is where the good stuff are not protein shakes.

If it was just a protein shake, it wouldn't be "suspect." Everyone knows that they're both dirty, but one is the better fighter, which is why he won!