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GGG should stop worrying about Canelo, he should fight the winner of Ward-Kovalev

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  • #51
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Exactly Floyd just outgrew divisions. Floyd was late developer, I bet he was smallest kid in his class but outgrew everyone, late growth spurt.
    GGG on the other hand weighed 160 @ 16years old and had moustache
    Or he lacks courage to move up.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by larryusa View Post
      That will create his legacy, not running behind Canelo...If he moved up 2 divisions to challenge the best of the best that would be chasing greatness..
      That fight would be huge and be the biggest fight the sport has to offer
      For a Floyd Mayweather fan you really need to learn how this game works. The first thing for a fighter, especially the calibre of GGG is to become financially secure, and secure his family's future. People always say that one of the biggest travesties in boxing is fighters who make a fortune and than blow it all away and are dead broke in retirement, that is incorrect. It is far worse when you have fighters who are absolutely top drawer, and never get the chance to make the type of money their talent deserves in the first place...for whatever reason.

      Any promoter, fighter, trainer who tells you that goal number one is not to secure the financial future of the fighter above everything else is BSing you, not only that but the majority of the time the promoter would have invested much of his own money and made a net loss on the first portion of a fighters career (not always), so it is pretty reasonable that they want a return on their investment and faith in that fighter.

      The Canelo fight does this for GGG, it is the plain reason that GGG didn't fight Ward. All the bickering on here, anyone with half a brain and a neural perspective could see this, It would not have secured him financially and the risk was too great, especially when you have Mr Canelo sitting there. Loeffler has done exactly the right thing for his fighter's career. Whatever the number might be - flat rate, doesn't matter it will be millions, in a fan friendly fight, that he is a good chance to win, and will put him on a different level in terms of popularity.

      Now in terms of his legacy, winning the Canelo fight will clearly enhance it, beating the best fighter he has faced to date, it will catapult him to bigger and better things and if the fight is pretty one sided I'm sure he will not hesitate to step up and fight bigger and more dangerous fighters at 168 or 175 against Ward or Kovalev.

      I don't think he is the type of guy to milk his status against mediocre opposition, his problem currently is he doesn't yet have that status. When the other champions are offered to fight him, they want a significant difference of money to what they normally get (and rightfully so) but the money just isn't there, so he has found himself in a kind of Abyss or no man's land you can say. They don't want to get knocked out and embarrassed by him for hundreds of thousands, they want millions.

      I think the Canelo fight is a GIANT step to solving a lot of his problems. I think it is the fight he needs to become a bonafide PPV draw.
      Last edited by sunny31; 09-07-2016, 06:09 PM.

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      • #53
        Hagler was a great fighter and didn't need to move up in weight to prove his greatness.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          But Floyd is the original and best at bloating opponents. He's pribabkly first to bloat someone 2 divisions and noit let them have warm up at that weight. Jmm not only skipped 140, he had no warm up at 147 and to top it off floyd came in over weight limiut.
          Floyd was true master of getting advantages, GGG is naive. Bloating a natural middleweight in brook who struggles to make 147, GGG is an amateur and has a lot to learn

          So you don't remember benard hopkins jumping two divisons without a tune up and becoming the light heavyweight champion huh?

          Haters gonna hate

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          • #55
            Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
            For a Floyd Mayweather fan you really need to learn how this game works. The first thing for a fighter, especially the calibre of GGG is to become financially secure, and secure his family's future. People always say that one of the biggest travesties in boxing is fighters who make a fortune and than blow it all away and are dead broke in retirement, that is incorrect. It is far worse when you have fighters who are absolutely top drawer, and never get the chance to make the type of money their talent deserves in the first place...for whatever reason.

            Any promoter, fighter, trainer who tells you that goal number one is not to secure the financial future of the fighter above everything else is BSing you, not only that but the majority of the time the promoter would have invested much of his own money and made a net loss on the first portion of a fighters career (not always), so it is pretty reasonable that they want a return on their investment and faith in that fighter.

            The Canelo fight does this for GGG, it is the plain reason that GGG didn't fight Ward. All the bickering on here, anyone with half a brain and a neural perspective could see this, It would not have secured him financially and the risk was too great, especially when you have Mr Canelo sitting there. Loeffler has done exactly the right thing for his fighter's career. Whatever the number might be - flat rate, doesn't matter it will be millions, in a fan friendly fight, that he is a good chance to win, and will put him on a different level in terms of popularity.

            Now in terms of his legacy, winning the Canelo fight will clearly enhance it, beating the best fighter he has faced to date, it will catapult him to bigger and better things and if the fight is pretty one sided I'm sure he will not hesitate to step up and fight bigger and more dangerous fighters at 168 or 175 against Ward or Kovalev.

            I don't think he is the type of guy to milk his status against mediocre opposition, his problem currently is he doesn't yet have that status. When the other champions are offered to fight him, they want a significant difference of money to what they normally get (and rightfully so) but the money just isn't there, so he has found himself in a kind of Abyss or no man's land you can say. They don't want to get knocked out and embarrassed by him for hundreds of thousands, they want millions.

            I think the Canelo fight is a GIANT step to solving a lot of his problems. I think it is the fight he needs to become a bonafide PPV draw.

            So you want him to wait for a fight that has no guarantee of happening?

            didn't yall just watch khan do this for the last 3 years.

            you don't put your career on hold for fantasy fights

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            • #56
              Originally posted by bluebeam View Post
              So you want him to wait for a fight that has no guarantee of happening?

              didn't yall just watch khan do this for the last 3 years.

              you don't put your career on hold for fantasy fights
              Not the same situation at all, and if that is all you took from that post than conversing with you is a waste of time.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
                Not the same situation at all, and if that is all you took from that post than conversing with you is a waste of time.



                golovkin has been waiting for a year. And now he is being told to wait another year.


                He has multiple money fights in front of him without canelo.

                Ramirez in Texas
                Ward in LA
                Stevenson in canada
                Degale in the UK
                Kovalev in Russia
                jacobs in NY

                all he has to do is go get it

                Golovkin is in no position to wait on fights that may never happen.

                he passed on ward, saying cotto and canelo were bigger fights. Here we are a year later and he didn't fight any of them.

                Waiting on canelo is a waste of time for a 34 year old fighter.

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                • #58
                  Will be interesting if Ward is being honest and makes the fight at 168 like his "serious offer" to GGG you guys keep bringing up suggested. We will see who is getting exposed then.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Jubei View Post
                    Will be interesting if Ward is being honest and makes the fight at 168 like his "serious offer" to GGG you guys keep bringing up suggested. We will see who is getting exposed then.
                    Ward can't make 168... He can barely make 172...

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by CaneloMaidana View Post
                      Golovkin ducked Lara you coward.
                      LOL! Why Lara don't move up in weight and beat hight rated credible 160 pounder? GGG brutally KO's Lara... you know this...

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