Comments Thread For: De La Hoya Explains The Road To Making Canelo vs. Golovkin

[Shadoww702]

Why? Because it seems they don't sell very well for that Smith fight?

??? What doesn't sale very well? A fight that has yet to happen?

The live gate is going to be at least 30K++

[ELPacman]

lol,wait until Canelo builds into a true middleweight? AKA, weighing over 200lbs on fight night? lol. Wtf more does he need.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Every time a Canelo fight starts to sell bad, they start talking GGG again

GBP must be realizing that Canelo's status has taken a deep hit.

[uniquehump]

Good answer by Oscar, but should of been given months ago. Feels like he was pressured by the fans and the entire boxing family to explain their stance. I'm sure they will give GGG a good offer because they know that the boxing public will turn on them.

I'm wondering how Canelo doing weight wise? I know he had struggle getting down to 154 before and that was years ago. He might find that fighting at 160 would be better for him. I think I would of rather seen Brook come up to 155 to 157 to fight Canelo, then see Canelo fight at the full limit in December 2016, May 2017 and then GGG in September 2017.

[johny joe hdz]

Wow!!!!! This is very impressive. I read the whole thing. I never saw it like this but you're super right man. Props to you for explaining something like this. Thanks again.

[johny joe hdz]

Quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack.

The closest Canelo will come to GGG is visiting Girls Go Games https://www.google.com/search?q=GGG&...=hp&channel=np.

Even if Canelo does fight GGG in September 2017, I'm not interested in that fight anymore. GGG will be 35 by then. I don't think boxing fans should be fooled again after Mayweather-Pacquiao. I know I won't. What these promoters seem to be doing is hyping the fans up by discussing exciting matchups between top fighters while they're in their prime, but then waiting until the fighters are old to actually make the fight in order to take away the risk, while trying to bank off the hype and excitement that was generated when the fighters were actually in their primes.

They will always market it as "well yes he's 35, but he's still as good as ever!" They might have him fight a total bum right before, to get an easy knockout, to make him look like he's still in his prime. The way they made Pacquiao seem closer to his prime by matching him against Algieri the fight before Floyd.

**** that. Boxing fans should be smarter than that. Excepting unique cases like Pacquiao-Marquez 4, I personally will not support PPVs in the future where EITHER of the fighters is older than 33 years old, and I suggest boxing fans who care about the sport join me. We need to send a message to boxing promoters that we WILL support the sport when they make the right fights, but that we will NOT support marinating PPV fights until the dominant fighter is on the decline, and the danger is decreased. When we spend on PPVs, we want to see danger! We want to see risk! We want to see spectacular talent and power! That's the whole point!

So GGG-Canelo 2017? The matchup was a mismatch in the first place, and now they're trying to save face by waiting until GGG is too old. Why would I pay $70 for a "is the way better fighter still young enough not to lose to an overrated fighter he would have knocked out easily in his prime" PPV? What kind of storyline is that?

**** that. We all know that fighters, especially offensive fighters like GGG, decline like clockwork when they hit 32, 33. We saw it with Kovalev his last fight. He doesn't bounce or throw combos like he used to. We've seen it with GGG the last couple years where he's relying more on his jab and single punches, more on his power, because the speed, combinations, and stamina have declined since his peak when he first came over to the U.S. We saw him visibly gassed early in the fight against Willie Monroe which is something we've never seen before. We saw Martin Murray almost take him 12 rounds.

We saw it with Manny Pacquiao, like clockwork, starting with the third fight against JMM, when Pacquiao was 32. Before that, he had blasted out Cotto, and put in truly premier performances against Margarito and to an extent Mosley even though he didn't get the knockout against Mosley, which may have been the beginning of that decline. The third fight vs Marquez was really the beginning of the serious decline and that started when Pacquiao was 32.

So get educated boxing fans. That is usually when it starts. They say Kovalev-Ward is happening when it should, but actually it should have happened two years ago, when they were 31, or 32 at most. One is 32 and one is 33, that is borderline decline age and we may see a less active fight than we are expecting as a result. Regardless, that is borderline. That is the latest you can make a PPV fight. So support Kovalev-Ward, but understand, even they are pushing it with the age. But 35? Absolutely not. We need to show boxing promoters that we will not support PPV fights if they wait until an offensive fighter is 35 before making it. That is guaranteed decline age for an offensive boxer 99 times out of 100. That is guaranteed ripping off the boxing public 99 out of 100 times because a declined boxer is rarely going to deliver the kind of entertainment promoters hype up PPVs to be using prime performances to advertise them.

No, promoters, you need to make these PPVs before either fighter, or at least the offensive fighter, hits 33 years old, otherwise the product will suffer, and once fans figure out how that works, they will start looking at the fighters age like I do before buying PPVs and save their money for the promoters who do make PPV fights while fighters are still in their prime years, before hitting 32-33 years old.

The very truth right here folks!!! Thanks man!!

[johny joe hdz]

Let me help oscar explain how the road to GGG goes. Go to Central Park, look for the huge lake in the middle, and sit amongst the ducks

Hahahahahaha!!! Good one man, you have me dying here.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

It's funny because DLH said Canelo only fought at middleweight because the fans wanted him to fight Cotto, whats the reasoning behind fighting Lara, Angulo, Kirkland and Khan at middleweight? Also why did Canelo say he didn't need to fight Lara at 154 because he didn't need the belt and was comfortable at 155 lbs? Why did Canelo initially request a 157 lbs catch weight when negotiating with Cotto? What fans asked for Canelo vs. Khan? Why after years of refusing to fight AT 154, is Canelo now refusing to fight ABOVE 154? I think these are all legit questions. It makes the entire situation humorous. Oh and GGG aint no boyscout.

Why does GGG have to wait for Canelo? Why can't he just resume his career? Can't get a meaningful fight at middleweight? Heres an idea move up. Why is it ok for GGG to be willing to fight people at 168 lbs, but when it came to Ward, it was 164? Why now that Ward is at 175 and said he's never coming back, GGG's people now say they'd fight Ward at 168? Why wasn't it ok for GGG to sign a contract agreeing to 2 fights then a guaranteed Ward fight, yet it's ok for GGG to agree to a contract with Canelo that extends beyond a year with no guarantee of an actual Canelo fight?

All humorous. What's even funnier is watching fanboys from both sides go at it, when both these guys are clearly cut from the same cloth. The crux of it is I like watching both fight, I just ain't paying for meaningless bouts.

[r1onnie2]

Oscar is starting to sound like the teacher from Charlie Brown, whomp whomp whomp whomp whomp whomp!