Do managers or "advisors" tell their clients, "you cant win that fight?"

[KingHippo]

The job of a manager is to put his fighters in fights they can win.

Everybody's ducking somebody.

[Boxfan83]

I'm sure there are some ****ty managers who do, but I'm sure largely its a carefully worded remarks like "there are better fights for you" or "there is more upside to fighting x instead of y" & **** like that that has more spin to it.

Randomly I'd loved to been a fly on the wall when Hearn sold Brook on the GGG fight. I personally feel like thats a cashout fight for Hearn with Brook, but obviously Hearn had to spin that fairly well I'd assume.

lol, yeah it went like this, get your ass beat blame it on the weight/size but on the bright side you get paid then move to 154 lol

[FrankieClutch]

Yeah, this. I'm sure they choose their words very carefully.

Right. And I'm sure it comes off as "empowering". Something like "You don't even need that fight! Who is that guy anyway? No one knows him!"

[Johnny Rubber]

I would assume that is the norm now. There are so many belts and respective contenders that risks aren't necessary unless the fighter wants them. Unfortunately, social media carries more weight than skills these days, which is why we have PBC, catch weights, exemptions, glove-gate, fake injuries and pricing yourself out of fights.

Sport of kings no more.

[Redd Foxx]

I'm pretty sure this is the case.

I really doubt managers will tell they're fighters, "you shouldn't fight that guy. He's just outclass you and make you look like a bum and ruin your career. Go fight Salka, he's more on your level."

No, it's more like, "that's a high risk, low reward. You'll win, but it won't be easy and you might take unnecessay damage and the money isn't there. A guy like Liam Smith should be an easier pay day and will enhance your career. Guaranteed W for big money."

YES!!! You really did make a GIF of it. lol


Regarding the question, those who make a living in management usually have some degree of finesse and know how to tactfully communicate a point or influence a client without offending. The managers are much to blame for the state of boxing because they are looking after their investment and would rather keep those paychecks coming in steadily. Manager doesn't give a fuq about their client's legacy and pride when that manager is trying to put their own kids through college, but a new house, etc.

[*TonyMontana*]

One word
Marination

[Mighty_Windir]

I think it probably happens. These guys have matchmakers to protect their cash cow.

But it's still boxing and anything can happen

Pretty much this, but someone with pride sometimes wouldn't let those advice go to their head.

For example, even though he has been roasted to death in the forum due to the decisions of his promoter, Canelo could have gone through the easy road and fought Cotto right after his defeat against Trout, but Canelo decided he was going to fight the winner of that bout, instead of going with the most popular and probably the one who would have left him more money. Austin was undefeated at that time and was a sneaky southpaw, same as Lara who was even more dangerous, but he fought them didn't he?

Goes to show you that some fighters do have a bit of pride in certain moments, even if arrogance ends up winning that race later in their careers

[Pain~Lucy]

Candela: hey Fishnet, what round do you think will I knock GGG?

Oscar and Eric:

[Mighty_Windir]

I'm pretty sure this is the case.

I really doubt managers will tell they're fighters, "you shouldn't fight that guy. He's just outclass you and make you look like a bum and ruin your career. Go fight Salka, he's more on your level."

No, it's more like, "that's a high risk, low reward. You'll win, but it won't be easy and you might take unnecessay damage and the money isn't there. A guy like Liam Smith should be an easier pay day and will enhance your career. Guaranteed W for big money."

Couldn't have put it better

[Boxfan83]

One word
Marination

lol, if you wait 7 years you could sell it on ppv for $100 each. Boxing fans will buy it...