Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

[IR0NFIST]

Already answered you because I'm not a bltch like you. No, it is not.

Now, is toradol prohibited by NSAC when there is no proof of injury? Let's see if you man up this time.

I'm glad we can both agree on something; toradol isn't a banned substance. Now, if toradol isn't considered a PED by the most renown anti-doping agency in existence, then how is Pacquiao's request for a shot to treat his previously injured shoulder considered "cheating"?

As for the NSAC, they are a sanctioning body, not an anti-doping agency. One of their representatives (whose name escapes me at the moment) publicly stated that it wasn't an "anti-doping issue", but rather a regulation issue. In short, if Pacquiao's management would've checked the correct box, then their request would've been approved.

I hope that answers your question.

[Dosumpthin]

Why would they when it will smear wada as well, wada didn't get anything from the 150k, wada can't sanction Floyd, all Floyd did was rent usada to keep up an image, the price shouldn't change between fights, testing is testing so why did it cost 150k

Why do you refuse to do any research so you can offer a more knowledgeable opinion outside of the QUESTIONS raised by Thomas Hauser?

Do you understand WHY I call you a ****** pact@rd?


"Testing" is not just "testing" and the fee was not 150k. DO RESEARCH.


There are levels refered to as "menus" that determine the scope and the depth of the testing to be performed.

The full details of WADA testing is not publicly known for obvious reasons and are rarely performed due to their associated cost. (This is why WADA shifted to the athelete biological passport model - to issue doping violations without performing the test to find the dope. This is why IV use is banned. Period. It would render ABP USLESS if athelets can legally use an iv after a work out 24/7 WITHOUT notifying the ADO.)


With that said I can reasonably speculate the 100,000 included target testing and specific ABP monitoring for both Manny and Floyd.

That included CIR testing as indicated by USADA - that Victor conte and Hauser incorrectly implied wasn't done.

Now instead of jumping to the next ****** I hate Floyd statement - you should research.

The real question is how can McDowell charge more for a big mick than McDonald's charges for a Big Mac? They don't even know what's in the special sauce!




(VADA EMPLOYEES)

[Shape up]

Funny that^^^^^^^^^^. As stated by your alter ego, usada don't test, they collect, the testing is done at the same labs that vada use, how ****** do you feel, do some research, hahahaha, your an imbecile

[travestyny]

******ity personified, the only way I can describe you, your name should be tragedyny, if a politician does something wrong the political party he is part of gets ridiculed, here we are more than a year down the track and this arguement is still going so imagine that WADA pulled up floyd and revoked his tue, think of what the ramadafications would have been, a whirlpool of bad publicity for usada and WADA would need to explain why usada are collecting for them and why they are heading out TUEs like candy, considering WADA didn't get anything out of the deal floyd and usada did, it seems like a lot of trouble for a return of a tarnished image, do you understand junior or do I have to dumb it down further

You're a moron. The application for the TUE was uploaded to the ADAMS database when it was accepted. So why the **** are you making up some scenario where WADA would have had to wait years to review it?

Now do you understand, you ****ing ******? You are quite possibly the dumbest poster on this site. I'm dead ass serious about that.

[travestyny]

Funny that^^^^^^^^^^. As stated by your alter ego, usada don't test, they collect, the testing is done at the same labs that vada use, how ****** do you feel, do some research, hahahaha, your an imbecile

LMAO. I can't wait for him to roast you about this idiotic statement of yours. You're so ****ing dumb.

[travestyny]

I'm glad we can both agree on something; toradol isn't a banned substance. Now, if toradol isn't considered a PED by the most renown anti-doping agency in existence, then how is Pacquiao's request for a shot to treat his previously injured shoulder considered "cheating"?

You're kinda slow, aren't you? The request isn't considered cheating. Shooting yourself up with toradol when there is no proof of an injury is cheating. It's clear that he attempted to cheat. That's because it damn sure would have been cheating had Pacquaio and his snake ass physician gone through with it. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO INTO A BOXING MATCH IN AN ABNORMAL STATE. This is per NSAC's rules. Pacquaio was in a normal state according to his physician, his promoter, his coach, and his own damn statements. He was also checked out by two NSAC physicians. So what the **** do you think toradol would have done? And why the **** would he need it if he was at normal strength, according to his own damn doctor and his own mouth???

As for the NSAC, they are a sanctioning body, not an anti-doping agency. One of their representatives (whose name escapes me at the moment) publicly stated that it wasn't an "anti-doping issue", but rather a regulation issue. In short, if Pacquiao's management would've checked the correct box, then their request would've been approved.

I hope that answers your question.

You are too ****** to realize how this speaks out against your own damn stance. It's not an anti-doping issue. That's why it has nothing to do with WADA. It has to do with NSAC's rules. NSAC is not a signatory to WADA. Their rules made the shot prohibited without proof of an injury.

“We don't allow Ibuprofen, Tylenol, or anti-inflammatories. It thins the blood and forces them to bleed even faster. You want the fighter to be in a natural state,” said Aguilar. “When the request was made to us, we made that evaluation, looked at our procedures, looked at our past decisions, and said no, this is not something we can do.”

And no, he wouldn't have been allowed to take the shot if he checked the right box. They would still need proof.

Aguilar said they knew of the injury only on the night of the fight, and when Pacquiao requested to be injected with anti-inflammatory and pain-killer medicines, it was already too late.

“Had he checked ‘yes,’ our doctors could have followed up with additional questions and say, ‘Where is the injury? What is the injury?’ and (asked for) a proof of the injury,” Aguilar explained.

“He (Pacquiao) could have shared (the NSAC) the MRI with his doctors and we could have figured out an opportunity for him to have the medication he claimed he needed,” he said.

“I didn’t have an MRI. There was no time to get an MRI,” said Aguilar.

The NSAC, Aguilar stressed, has a reputation to uphold, and it cannot just provide medication to anyone without all the proper information.

“You want the fighter to be in a natural state so they can understand how their body is reacting to the actual fight. This is not (the) NBA. This is a full unarmed combat. People are punching each other in the face and if they can’t feel the pain then that’s a problem, Aguilar explained.


So...tell me...is going into a boxing match in an abnormal state cheating?

Did Pacquaio attempt to go into the fight in an abnormal state? Numbing his entire body for a shoulder injury that even he claims he didn't have?

Let me know, bro.

[IR0NFIST]

You're kinda slow, aren't you? The request isn't considered cheating. Shooting yourself up with toradol when there is no proof of an injury is cheating. It's clear that he attempted to cheat. That's because it damn sure would have been cheating had Pacquaio and his snake ass physician gone through with it. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO INTO A BOXING MATCH IN AN ABNORMAL STATE. This is per NSAC's rules. Pacquaio was in a normal state according to his physician, his promoter, his coach, and his own damn statements. He was also checked out by two NSAC physicians. So what the **** do you think toradol would have done? And why the **** would he need it if he was at normal strength, according to his own damn doctor and his own mouth???



You are too ****** to realize how this speaks out against your own damn stance. It's not an anti-doping issue. That's why it has nothing to do with WADA. It has to do with NSAC's rules. NSAC is not a signatory to WADA. Their rules made the shot prohibited without proof of an injury.

“We don't allow Ibuprofen, Tylenol, or anti-inflammatories. It thins the blood and forces them to bleed even faster. You want the fighter to be in a natural state,” said Aguilar. “When the request was made to us, we made that evaluation, looked at our procedures, looked at our past decisions, and said no, this is not something we can do.”

And no, he wouldn't have been allowed to take the shot if he checked the right box. They would still need proof.

Aguilar said they knew of the injury only on the night of the fight, and when Pacquiao requested to be injected with anti-inflammatory and pain-killer medicines, it was already too late.

“Had he checked ‘yes,’ our doctors could have followed up with additional questions and say, ‘Where is the injury? What is the injury?’ and (asked for) a proof of the injury,” Aguilar explained.

“He (Pacquiao) could have shared (the NSAC) the MRI with his doctors and we could have figured out an opportunity for him to have the medication he claimed he needed,” he said.

“I didn’t have an MRI. There was no time to get an MRI,” said Aguilar.

The NSAC, Aguilar stressed, has a reputation to uphold, and it cannot just provide medication to anyone without all the proper information.

“You want the fighter to be in a natural state so they can understand how their body is reacting to the actual fight. This is not (the) NBA. This is a full unarmed combat. People are punching each other in the face and if they can’t feel the pain then that’s a problem, Aguilar explained.


So...tell me...is going into a boxing match in an abnormal state cheating?

Did Pacquaio attempt to go into the fight in an abnormal state? Numbing his entire body for a shoulder injury that even he claims he didn't have?

Let me know, bro.

I see my point completely flew over your head; yet again. Let me explain in the fewest words possible so as to not confuse your undeveloped brain. Toradol is NOT a PED. So therefore, using it, or attempting to use it would not be considered "cheating" regardless of the situation.

Since you trust the NSAC so blindly, here's a statement directly from their website which clearly states that non-steroidal anti-inflammatories like toradol are... wait for it... NOT PROHIBITED!

NAC CHAPTER 467 - UNARMED COMBAT

The following types of drugs or injections are not prohibited pursuant to subsection 1, but their use is discouraged by the Commission:
(a) Aspirin and products containing aspirin.
(b) Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories.

[Dosumpthin]

LMAO. I can't wait for him to roast you about this idiotic statement of yours. You're so ****ing dumb.

Lol.

You ever find yourself conversing with someone so ****** - you just turn away and start talking to someone else mid sentence?


Smh.


WHY THE **** DOES VADA BOAST ABOUT USING A "WADA LAB"..... IF VADA DOESNT FOLLOW ANY WADA PROTOCOLS??????


LMAO


Victor Conte has these ****** pact@rds fooled but not me.



SMH.



Victor Conte probably uses an UBER driver to deliver the samples to the WADA lab. Can't even use his own phone to order the UBER car. Smh.

"Victor who???? I don't know who the **** he is!!!"

- Margaret Goodman


For someone who has no affiliation to VADA WHY is he brokering deals with MMA?


"That’s why Conte suggested that the UFC go through an independent agency, like the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA), which is chaired by former NSAC doctor Margaret Goodman. According to Conte, VADA could randomly test Zuffa’s entire roster of nearly 400 professional fighters twice a year for somewhere between $1-1.5 million. "

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/4/9/2936863/victor-conte-says-there-are-simple-answers-for-mmas-drug-problem

LMAO.


Uploads "inadvertent use waivers" instead of TUEs to the M.A.D.A.M.S. system.


Idiots.


ADP - Athelete Data Passbook


VADA website was created by a 12 year old. For 8 dollars.


How does a fighter Victor Conte represents get busted by. ...... VADA founded by Victor Conte ?

Wtf??????

Andre Berto you gotta watch out for the snakes in your circle. #snitchesgetstiches


The ISTUE is irelevant idiot.


I'm confident Conte stores VADA samples at home in his wine cellar.



Shape Up and Iron FIST are ****** people.


Not worth discussing anything meaningful with them.




"2 + 2 = 4."

"Yep I even checked on both hands, you're right."


PACT@RDS : "ALTERNATE!"

[Kuyukut]

I see my point completely flew over your head; yet again. Let me explain in the fewest words possible so as to not confuse your undeveloped brain. Toradol is NOT a PED. So therefore, using it, or attempting to use it would not be considered "cheating" regardless of the situation.

Since you trust the NSAC so blindly, here's a statement directly from their website which clearly states that non-steroidal anti-inflammatories like toradol are... wait for it... NOT PROHIBITED!

^^^^^^^^

did he perished gargling fraud jr. small d*ck?

[Dosumpthin]

Instead of having Manny demonstrate he was ok to fight by throwing punches - Why didnt Dr ellatrache tell NSAC doctors and Aguilar after he was caught with the needle that Manny needs this legal USADA TUE approved toradol injection or else he can't compete?