Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

[travestyny]

wada prohibited list: by method

2. Chemical and physical manipulation
intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than 50 ml per 6 hour period except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations.


from the istue:


3.0 definitions and interpretation


prohibited method: any method so described on the prohibited list.



part two: Standards and process for granting tues


4.3 an athlete may only be granted retroactive approval for his/her the****utic use of a prohibited substance or prohibited method (i.e., a retroactive tue) if:

the istue is irrelavent

show me where it states different in the istue in regards to an iv been given at home

wada prohibited list: by method

2. Chemical and physical manipulation
intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than 50 ml per 6 hour period except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations.


from the istue:


3.0 definitions and interpretation


prohibited method: any method so described on the prohibited list.



part two: Standards and process for granting tues


4.3 an athlete may only be granted retroactive approval for his/her the****utic use of a prohibited substance or prohibited method (i.e., a retroactive tue) if:

and once again, you couldn't show me, as i've said, fluid is a cheat nobjockey

wada prohibited list: by method

2. Chemical and physical manipulation
intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than 50 ml per 6 hour period except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations.


from the istue:


3.0 definitions and interpretation


prohibited method: any method so described on the prohibited list.



part two: Standards and process for granting tues


4.3 an athlete may only be granted retroactive approval for his/her the****utic use of a prohibited substance or prohibited method (i.e., a retroactive tue) if:

lmaoooooooo. Oh i thought it was irrelevant! You ****ing moron. You lose.

[ADP02]

[QUOTE]

1. Please explain what the **** this had to do with specific gravity when hydration was measured by creatinine. LMAO. That's your first **** up.

2. Please explain what this has to do with Nick Diaz when his marijuana metabolite was measured much higher than any of these values.

3. You are so ****** that you believe just because it was stated that the value can only reliably be stated as greater than 300ng, that means it could be 301ng. LMAO

Your own source for this information says the marijuana metabolite was "certainly well above the upper limit of linearity of 300ml/ng."

Again, what does CERTAINLY WELL ABOVE mean? LMAO!!! You think the GC/MS measures at 733ng and it's really around 300???? That's why you're a moron. Your own source shlts all over you.

1. a) You are the one that is comparing TEST #2 to TEST #3. Right? I'm just going along with you for the fun of it but as Diaz's expert said lots of variables so you cannot do that. You are agreeing now. GOOD!

b) It still shows the drop in metabolites!


2) You are lost. Its not just the number that is important but how many times it needs to be diluted. I already explained it to you.

3) I didn't say its 301, did I?
Just stating the facts. Its a fact that we do not know the exact number but the reliable value is > 300. If you are so smart that you know the exact number, please let me know what it is, smart guy. You cannot. So to say its 733 is WROOONG! It can be more or less but the reliable value is > 300. That is the correct response WHICH I ALREADY POSTED, smart guy! lol! Just deflections! lol!

Oh thank you, doctor, for your ability to magically see the inner workings of his body. But one question: Are there any conditions that would allow a person to drink a lot of fluid but not be able to urinate?

1) Again, That is NOT the way it works for the NSAC. You need to state your medical conditions. If you do not and you have, too bad so sad.
Example? Diaz's is supposedly allowed to use marijuana medically in California but didn't put that on the form. BUSTED! NSAC said that was one of the reasons for the suspension!!!

Secondly, I may not be a doctor but I am retrieving facts!

2) Lets pretend that FLoyd has an unusual medical condition.
a) Why never put it on a form?
b) Why did Floyd not require an IV more often?
c) Why is it not reported that Floyd always needs to delay for 6+ hours due to medical reasons?
d) You do not need to be a doctor. Just listen to Floyd/Ellerbe. If you believe there BS (which you do not or else you wouldn't be talking like you do), It was just dehydration and the reasons were due to giving urine, blood 10 days before and exercising a little bit!

e) Your responses are dumb at best. If you can come up with such nonsense then you can come up with any crazy thing for Floyd, Diaz, anyone.

BUT for Floyd, all is possible, Diaz, its impossible! What a JOKE you have become!!! Again, its not on the form so too bad so sad. Stick with the facts!!!

When was he diagnosed? Any information on that, oh wise one? Was it before or after the weigh-in. Please let me know. When were the vitamins infused? Was it before or after the weigh-in. LMAO. Are you starting to realize how you are trying too hard, and it's so easy to prove that you don't know shlt.

You are hitting new lows my friend.

The time that is most important to notify the NSAC is after the weigh in since THE FIGHT IS LESS THAN 24 hours away! You are talking like its a free for all, anything goes afterwards. That is like saying, Manny could have used anything after because it came after completing the form. Diaz could have smoked after the pre-fight form. What a joke!

Plus, if Floyd had a medical condition that was so serious, why did he not go to a hospital? All it took was Dr Alex Ariza to figure it out BUT you are coming up with crazy medical conditions!

I don't know if it was serious or not. The point is, neither do you. What I do know is that according to the rules, at least 3 independent doctors say that everything was on the up and up. Now unless you have some information that they were lying.....? Yea, didn't think so.




LMAO.

Each anti-doping agency and International Federation has its own TUEC. Your identity is never revealed to the TUEC.

You do not like Diaz's final verdict either. Right? Yet you are complaining.

All that they have is what Floyd's doctor Alex Ariza wrote on that paper. They didn't even investigate it because as soon as they got Floyd's application, they rubber stamped it.

USADA can talk to them too. Not so hard to know where there are cracks in this. I already pointed it out.

Its like Lance Armstrong and UCI. Even until recently, all that happens is that WADA gives the UCI a slap on the wrist (not even) and they carry on.

So yea, um...you are now SPECULATING that USADA broke their rules, right? Ok. Now tell me, smart guy. Why would USADA involve 3 doctors in this lie and risk one of the hugest scandals in the American sports world over Floyd Mayweather when, if they wanted to........they could have just warned Floyd when to stop taking PED's? Can't wait to hear you answer. LMAO. You're a clown, dude.

I just pointed out some of the obvious cracks in the system. USADA and Floyd and his reps have an obvious relation. So the treatment will be different. Its obvious the way USADA protects Floyd but shoots down Manny even though BOTH did not notify the NSAC bout their medical condition but only with Floyd, did the NSAC know about it until after the fight and only Floyd used something that they "say" was an IV with vitamins.

Impossible? Go ask Lance Armstrong how hard it was to get the UCI to cooperate. USADA/TUEC are all in the same.


Sorry but they could have just warned Lance Armstrong too! CLOWN that needs a history lesson!

LMAO. Really???

1. The 20 year vet Medical Review Officer testified UNDER OATH that it was medically implausible to drink that much water and be coherent. yet you believe Manny's doctor who was trying to help him cheat with toradol.

2. LD50 of water of a 165lb man is 6 liters. THIS IS A FACT.

3. Your own studies show that Diaz specific gravity would be much lower than 1.009. Still waiting for your proof about electorlyte drinks. That never came, buddy.

4. Your studies show that drinking 4 liters of water would not have anywhere close to bringing down marijuana from over 300ng to 61ng. LMAO.

5. Nick Diaz was being watched by not one, but TWO DCO's after the fight.

6.


How much water did the Medical Review Officer say he had to drink? 30 glasses? About 7 liters? lol.

7.


Looks like those electrolytes in that gatorade didn't help the kid. This is why no one should listen to you. R.I.P.

8.


Another guy who passed from drinking electrolyte rich drinks. I sure hope you aren't giving this info. to friends or family. That's serious. All name-calling aside. Dude, you are WRONG.

Do you need more?

1) a)All he can do is fool Travestyny! You are either 1) dumb enough to believe or 2) cannot say that you are WROOONG!. For a while I thought it was #2 but now its sounding like you are on the dumb side.

b) Still shows the drop in metabolite after just a few hours!

2) WTFreak are you talking about! lol!

3) Why does it have to be lower than a certain number? Explain it because there are studies that say otherwise.

4) You are lost. Go back and read subjects G and H.

5) So YOU say .... show the proof that they were always next to him AND that they did not allow Diaz to drink. GO!!!

WADA:
"Food and Drink Precautions
The DCO/Chaperone can't prevent the Athlete eating or drinking products of his/her choice, but is to recommend that the Athlete choose from a selection of individually sealed, non-alcoholic beverages to hydrate."

The DCO will even allow IVs I heard! lol


6) Still lost. Maybe there is no hope!

7) Still lost. Maybe there is no

8) Still lost. Maybe there is no hope!

Really? Your study had nothing to do with specific gravity. The numbers were nowhere near Nick Diaz' numbers. Your study had nothing to do with the amount of time Nick Diaz had. lol. Give up.

Still lost. Maybe there is no hope! The numbers do NOT need to be the same. I already explained that to you!!!

What number did the machine register?
What did the Quest representative say? CERTAINLY WELL ABOVE 300ng? Take a wild guess at what that means? Use your brain.

Still with this?
Yes the witness thinks its much more than 300. I already told you what he said. Its only reliable in that it was above 300ng but cannot say exactly. It can even be above 733 BUT it can be below BUT not less than 300 ... That is all you can say. Got it? Stick with the facts!

Wrong. He said in the range of 30 glasses of water. He didn't want to give a specific amount when pressed because as a professional he didn't want to be held to it. You ever wonder why most people believe Diaz side and nearly no one believes NSAC's side? Go check out some articles online. See how many you can find on NSAC's side, buddy.

The NSAC gave this expert multiple chances and ways he could have answered. Sorry but when pressured the doctor being an expert could have given a range but didn't.

OOOPS. You stepped in shlt didn't you. Now scroll up, and come back and apologize for...sorry for saying it...being a moron. HSer drank the amount that the MRO said Nick Diaz would have to drank, countered it with Gatorade, and died. Another dude only drank electrolyte drinks...and died of the same thing. You need to do some more research and stop being a fool.

Still lost. Maybe there is no hope!

Wrong!
You are the king of bullshlt, you know that?

1. You are still going with this more than 1hour 15minute scenario but you still haven't proven how he was slightly dehydrated if he drank so much before this time.

2. Just like you are going with the >300ng yet you can't handle that your own source said the number is certainly well above that.

JUST STOP IT!

He drank 7 liters in front of 2 DCO's? lol

1. Your question does not make my response inaccurate. Diaz had more time than the 1 hour 15 minutes than the expert suggested. Actually, his whole evdience is inaccurate!

2. Just go with the facts. Above >300? Yes? Is that reliable? Yes? Any other number reliable? Nope! More than 300? More than likely but again, we do not know the number!


I do not know how much Diaz drank or what he did. Do you? But as I stated above, IF they were present or not, the DCO cannot really stop Diaz from drinking.

Oh, I think I more than showed my proof. in fact, the studies you showed helped my proof, fool. LMAO. You just can't win.


ANDDDDDDDD....you're still ducking me, son. Why can't you be a ****ing man. SHOW UP!

Still lost. Maybe there is no hope!

[travestyny]

1. a) You are the one that is comparing TEST #2 to TEST #3. Right? I'm just going along with you for the fun of it but as Diaz's expert said lots of variables so you cannot do that. You are agreeing now. GOOD!

b) It still shows the drop in metabolites!


2) You are lost. Its not just the number that is important but how many times it needs to be diluted. I already explained it to you.

3) I didn't say its 301, did I?
Just stating the facts. Its a fact that we do not know the exact number but the reliable value is > 300. If you are so smart that you know the exact number, please let me know what it is, smart guy. You cannot. So to say its 733 is WROOONG! It can be more or less but the reliable value is > 300. That is the correct response WHICH I ALREADY POSTED, smart guy! lol! Just deflections! lol!







1) Again, That is NOT the way it works for the NSAC. You need to state your medical conditions. If you do not and you have, too bad so sad.
Example? Diaz's is supposedly allowed to use marijuana medically in California but didn't put that on the form. BUSTED! NSAC said that was one of the reasons for the suspension!!!

Secondly, I may not be a doctor but I am retrieving facts!

2) Lets pretend that FLoyd has an unusual medical condition.
a) Why never put it on a form?
b) Why did Floyd not require an IV more often?
c) Why is it not reported that Floyd always needs to delay for 6+ hours due to medical reasons?
d) You do not need to be a doctor. Just listen to Floyd/Ellerbe. If you believe there BS (which you do not or else you wouldn't be talking like you do), It was just dehydration and the reasons were due to giving urine, blood 10 days before and exercising a little bit!

e) Your responses are dumb at best. If you can come up with such nonsense then you can come up with any crazy thing for Floyd, Diaz, anyone.

BUT for Floyd, all is possible, Diaz, its impossible! What a JOKE you have become!!! Again, its not on the form so too bad so sad. Stick with the facts!!!







You are hitting new lows my friend.

The time that is most important to notify the NSAC is after the weigh in since THE FIGHT IS LESS THAN 24 hours away! You are talking like its a free for all, anything goes afterwards. That is like saying, Manny could have used anything after because it came after completing the form. Diaz could have smoked after the pre-fight form. What a joke!

Plus, if Floyd had a medical condition that was so serious, why did he not go to a hospital? All it took was Dr Alex Ariza to figure it out BUT you are coming up with crazy medical conditions!



You do not like Diaz's final verdict either. Right? Yet you are complaining.

All that they have is what Floyd's doctor Alex Ariza wrote on that paper. They didn't even investigate it because as soon as they got Floyd's application, they rubber stamped it.

USADA can talk to them too. Not so hard to know where there are cracks in this. I already pointed it out.

Its like Lance Armstrong and UCI. Even until recently, all that happens is that WADA gives the UCI a slap on the wrist (not even) and they carry on.




I just pointed out some of the obvious cracks in the system. USADA and Floyd and his reps have an obvious relation. So the treatment will be different. Its obvious the way USADA protects Floyd but shoots down Manny even though BOTH did not notify the NSAC bout their medical condition but only with Floyd, did the NSAC know about it until after the fight and only Floyd used something that they "say" was an IV with vitamins.

Impossible? Go ask Lance Armstrong how hard it was to get the UCI to cooperate. USADA/TUEC are all in the same.


Sorry but they could have just warned Lance Armstrong too! CLOWN that needs a history lesson!



1) a)All he can do is fool Travestyny! You are either 1) dumb enough to believe or 2) cannot say that you are WROOONG!. For a while I thought it was #2 but now its sounding like you are on the dumb side.

b) Still shows the drop in metabolite after just a few hours!

2) WTFreak are you talking about! lol!

3) Why does it have to be lower than a certain number? Explain it because there are studies that say otherwise.

4) You are lost. Go back and read subjects G and H.

5) So YOU say .... show the proof that they were always next to him AND that they did not allow Diaz to drink. GO!!!

WADA:
"Food and Drink Precautions
The DCO/Chaperone can't prevent the Athlete eating or drinking products of his/her choice, but is to recommend that the Athlete choose from a selection of individually sealed, non-alcoholic beverages to hydrate."

The DCO will even allow IVs I heard! lol


6) Still lost. Maybe there is no hope!

7) Still lost. Maybe there is no

8) Still lost. Maybe there is no hope!





Still lost. Maybe there is no hope! The numbers do NOT need to be the same. I already explained that to you!!!



Still with this?
Yes the witness thinks its much more than 300. I already told you what he said. Its only reliable in that it was above 300ng but cannot say exactly. It can even be above 733 BUT it can be below BUT not less than 300 ... That is all you can say. Got it? Stick with the facts!



The NSAC gave this expert multiple chances and ways he could have answered. Sorry but when pressured the doctor being an expert could have given a range but didn't.



Still lost. Maybe there is no hope!



1. Your question does not make my response inaccurate. Diaz had more time than the 1 hour 15 minutes than the expert suggested. Actually, his whole evdience is inaccurate!

2. Just go with the facts. Above >300? Yes? Is that reliable? Yes? Any other number reliable? Nope! More than 300? More than likely but again, we do not know the number!


I do not know how much Diaz drank or what he did. Do you? But as I stated above, IF they were present or not, the DCO cannot really stop Diaz from drinking.



Still lost. Maybe there is no hope!

You just wrote so many ****** things in one place that I don't even know where to begin. Furthermore, nice ducking of the information I gave you. Don't even want to respond to those guys that prove your electolyte theory is bullshlt, do you? Just like you didn't respond to your whole workout releases a huge amount of marijuana metabolite bullshlt when I proved that wrong. You aren't doing too well.

Let me make this easy for you, little guy.

1. Which of your studies show a subject with marijuana metabolite levels certainly well above 300ng? I'll wait.

2. Which of your studies shows that you can drink enough water to bring down marijuana metabolies of well over 300ng and yet have a specific gravity of 1.009?

3. Which of your studies shows that you can pound drinks with electolytes and not risk your health?

I'll wait for your answers.

AND WHY THE **** WON'T YOU ANSWER TO THE THUNDERDOME? STOP BEING A LITTLE BlTCH AND ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE!

[ADP02]

You just wrote some many ****** things in one place that I don't even know where to begin. Furthermore, nice ducking of the information I gave you. Don't even want to respond to those guys that prove your electolyte theory is bullshlt, do you? Just like you didn't respond to your whole workout releases a huge amount of marijuana metabolite bullshlt when I proved that wrong. You aren't doing too well.

Let me make this easy for you, little guy.

1. Which of your studies show a subject with marijuana metabolite levels certainly well above 300ng? I'll wait.

2. Which of your studies shows that you can drink enough water to bring down marijuana metabolies of well over 300ng and yet have a specific gravity of 1.009?

3. Which of your studies shows that you can pound drinks with electolytes and not risk your health?

I'll wait for your answers.

AND WHY THE **** WON'T YOU ANSWER TO THE THUNDERDOME? STOP BEING A LITTLE BlTCH AND ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE!

Like I told you its about # of times that urine can be diluted and of course not just the number of metabolites as you keep implying. You do not subtract as you appear to be doing when you incorrectly made fun of my examples!


Lets start with dilution:
"After rapid consumption of 1 liter of fluids shortly before a drug test, urine drug/metabolite concentrations can be reduced several-fold and remain diluted for a few hours."

To get 8X dilution:
"After consumption of 1 liter (~4 glasses) of water over a short period of time (i.e. 30 minutes)"

How is this achieved?
Excess water consumption of 1–2 liters over a short period of time can lead to dramatic increases in urine production rates to 10 or even 20 mL/min as demonstrated in the charts below.



Yup, if the concentration of metabolites is more than 20,000 ng/ml then its hard to dilute. Read below:

"Although a drug user may be able to easily dilute their urine by a factor of 5 or more, for many drugs the urine concentrations may be so high that even a 5–10 fold dilution will not allow a drug user to reduce their urine levels below the established cut-offs. For ******* users, typical urine levels of ******* metabolite are on the order of many tens of thousands of ng/mL and even higher, so even a 10-fold dilution will still leave urine levels well above the screening cut-off values (300 ng/mL of ******* metabolite). "


But as stated below, once we get into only a few thousand metabolites, dilution is achievable and for rates lower than that which is usually the case for Marijuana, its much easier to dilute. The chart (see link) shows that by only diluting 8X, marijuana metabolites can go from 400 ng/ml down to 50 ng/ml!!!

"The same can be true of opiates and amphetamines, simply because of the large doses of these drugs which are commonly consumed by abusers and the very high resulting urine concentrations.

However, after the body has had some time after dosing to metabolize and eliminate these drugs/metabolites and their urine levels are reduced to only a few thousand ng/mL, then dilution may allow a user even of large amounts of drug to escape detection.
In contrast, for cannabinoid consumption, the urine levels are typically on the order of only a few hundred ng/mL and accordingly a 5–10 fold dilution of urine may easily allow a user of cannabis to avoid detection with the conventional 50 ng/mL screening cut-off. cf. the chart below."



http://w2.georgiacourts.org/gac/file...n%20Policy.pdf

[travestyny]

Like I told you its about # of times that urine can be diluted and of course not just the number of metabolites as you keep implying. You do not subtract as you appear to be doing when you incorrectly made fun of my examples!


Lets start with dilution:
"After rapid consumption of 1 liter of fluids shortly before a drug test, urine drug/metabolite concentrations can be reduced several-fold and remain diluted for a few hours."

To get 8X dilution:
"After consumption of 1 liter (~4 glasses) of water over a short period of time (i.e. 30 minutes)"

How is this achieved?
Excess water consumption of 1–2 liters over a short period of time can lead to dramatic increases in urine production rates to 10 or even 20 mL/min as demonstrated in the charts below.



Yup, if the concentration of metabolites is more than 20,000 ng/ml then its hard to dilute. Read below:

"Although a drug user may be able to easily dilute their urine by a factor of 5 or more, for many drugs the urine concentrations may be so high that even a 5–10 fold dilution will not allow a drug user to reduce their urine levels below the established cut-offs. For ******* users, typical urine levels of ******* metabolite are on the order of many tens of thousands of ng/mL and even higher, so even a 10-fold dilution will still leave urine levels well above the screening cut-off values (300 ng/mL of ******* metabolite). "


But as stated below, once we get into only a few thousand metabolites, dilution is achievable and for rates lower than that which is usually the case for Marijuana, its much easier to dilute. The chart (see link) shows that by only diluting 8X, marijuana metabolites can go from 400 ng/ml down to 50 ng/ml!!!

"The same can be true of opiates and amphetamines, simply because of the large doses of these drugs which are commonly consumed by abusers and the very high resulting urine concentrations.

However, after the body has had some time after dosing to metabolize and eliminate these drugs/metabolites and their urine levels are reduced to only a few thousand ng/mL, then dilution may allow a user even of large amounts of drug to escape detection.
In contrast, for cannabinoid consumption, the urine levels are typically on the order of only a few hundred ng/mL and accordingly a 5–10 fold dilution of urine may easily allow a user of cannabis to avoid detection with the conventional 50 ng/mL screening cut-off. cf. the chart below."



http://w2.georgiacourts.org/gac/file...n%20Policy.pdf

1. How did you answer any of my questions?

2. What you are saying makes no sense because it does not discuss specific gravity at all. It also does not discuss the amount of time Diaz had.

3. Your link doesn't work.


Now when are you going to answer my questions?

1. Which of your studies show a subject with marijuana metabolite levels certainly well above 300ng? I'll wait.

2. Which of your studies shows that you can drink enough water to bring down marijuana metabolies of well over 300ng and yet have a specific gravity of 1.009?

3. Which of your studies shows that you can pound drinks with electolytes and not risk your health?

[travestyny]

In contrast, for cannabinoid consumption, the urine levels are typically on the order of only a few hundred ng/mL and accordingly a 5–10 fold dilution of urine may easily allow a user of cannabis to avoid detection with the conventional 50 ng/mL screening cut-off. cf. the chart below."

http://w2.georgiacourts.org/gac/file...n%20Policy.pdf

2. What you are saying makes no sense because it does not discuss specific gravity at all. It also does not discuss the amount of time Diaz had.

Found the study that you are referring to. To my surprise, your study does mention both specific gravity and time! Wow! I thought these two things would be important...and what do you know? They were definitely mentioned. Now I wonder why you left those two things out. Maybe this is why:

Marijuana, its much easier to dilute. The chart (see link) shows that by only diluting 8X, marijuana metabolites can go from 400 ng/ml down to 50 ng/ml!!!

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You're right. If you dilute 8X then marijuana metabolite can decrease from 400 to 50...IN 48 HOURS!!!!

To get 8X dilution:
"After consumption of 1 liter (~4 glasses) of water over a short period of time (i.e. 30 minutes)"

The study does mention 8X dilution would be about 1 liter of water. What specific gravity would that equate to according to the study?

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That's right. The specific gravity would be 1.003.


So if we assume that Diaz had a marijuana metabolite amount of 400ng, how the hell did he dilute it down to 61ng in 75 minutes with a specific gravity of 1.009 when your study says it would take 48 hours with a specific gravity of 1.003 ?????? LMAOOOOOOOO!

According to your study, Diaz drank less than a liter of water, yet he diluted from well over 300ng in, let's just say 2 hours so you have no excuses. YOUR STUDY PROVES YOU WRONG! YOU'RE DONE!

R.I.P.

[Zaroku]

Pac lost, Ployd won, end thread.

[IR0NFIST]

Coming to a theater near you.

[Dosumpthin]

Is that the best explaination you can come up with, it's pathetic, I've shown you morons where it states the TUE needs to be in advance when the IV is given at home for rehydration, none of you clowns have shown anything to the contrary, your just hopeless floyd fanboys who couldn't see the truth about the situation even when there is rules spelled out to you time and time again, you guys remind me of that cartoon with the 2 dogs, floyd is the bigger dog and you guys are bouncing around him saying, " you want to play ball spike ha you want to play ball" you guys don't have the ability to think for yourselves, really a sad situation

You're still ******. Here you go. Try to be less ****** and understand this time. Here are the rules.

4.2 Unless one of the exceptions set out in Article 4.3 applies, an Athlete who
needs to Use a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method for The****utic reasons
must obtain a TUE prior to Using or Possessing the substance or method in
question.

- ISTUE


This means ALL tues, not just IV use at home you ****** pact@rd, ALL ALL ALL tues must be obtained in ADVANCE.......UNLESS ONE OF THE EXECPTIONS IN 4.3 APPLIES.




And it has been confirmed, through reading WADA code and the comprehensive abilties of rational people - along with WADA representative VERBAL CONFIRMATION an athelete can obtain a TUE RETROACTIVELY for IV rehydration.



In other words you're ****** and pathetic.

[Dosumpthin]

Ironfist

"It's a rumored fact!"

"The fact that it's a rumor, makes it a fact!"

Shape up

"The ISTUE is irrelevant when discussing TUES"


Adp02


"Usada (a WADA signatory) specific gravity test (done by a dco and verified by a WADA lab as part of WADA protocol and athelete biological passport) done for Floyd is not reliable beacsue..."


...NSAC (non WADA signatory) accepted a sample which specific gravity sample (lower than their own rules nsac) from a dco (non WADA protocol) tested by quest diagnostic (non WADA acredited lab) has found Diaz in violation of marijuana use that two other test (non WADA protocol sg) couldn't because the sample was too dillute. (no athelete biological passport)


........Done over the span of 50 + pages.........never mind that WADA signatory would've violated diaz for a dilluted sample. (Athelete biological passport rules)




Not one answer to mannys toradol abuse or the thread topic.


Pact@rds are ****** people.