Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

[IR0NFIST]

Correct. I'm in the business and I prescribe it routinely for my postoperative patients. We give it immediately after surgery. Its beneficial in reducing the amount of postoperative narcotic analgesia the patient would normally require.

Toradol is a nonsteroidal antiflammatory, not a narcotic. It shouldn't be added to any prohibitive drug list. It's in the same drug class as Advil or Aleeve.

Finally, an opinion that actually matters from somebody who's in the healthcare business. Unlike the armchair doctor travestyny, who has ZERO expertise in the field and just scours the internet frantically copying and pasting content he knows nothing about.

[IR0NFIST]

Even the World Anti-Doping Agency is taking a hard look at the usage of this drug. While the "non-steroidal" part is highlighted by those using the drugs and there are no real connections between corticosteroids and anabolic steroids, that hasn't stopped some from calling it a performance-enhancer.

Hans Geyer, the deputy director of WADA, said that he considered anti-inflammatories a "doping substance."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1637798-nba-playoffs-2013-the-drugs-that-keep-injured-players-on-the-court

Doesn't change the fact that you can't take it when it would put you in an abnormal state. Now if Pacquaio claims that he was 100% going into the fight, as he did, can you please explain what a shot of toradol would have done for him and if that would have been cheating had his doctor injected him with that needle.

Thanks. Let's see what you come up with.

Funny because the very same article you referenced clarifies that toradol is "not controversial" and is "perfectly legal when administered by a doctor". But if you feel so strongly about the absence of toradol on the WADA prohibited list. Why don't you gather all of your findings and present them to the head of WADA himself? Let me know how that works out for you.

[LoadedWraps]

"Of course Toradol isn't a banned substance. But you must wonder, why give a shot when no injury was disclosed. That seems more like cheating as Pac has always done it before fights, let alone he doesn't like blood testing to begin with. So we did not allow this tomfoolery before the hour." -NSAC

[LoadedWraps]

Finally, an opinion that actually matters from somebody who's in the healthcare business. Unlike the armchair doctor travestyny, who has ZERO expertise in the field and just scours the internet frantically copying and pasting content he knows nothing about.

He didn't deny the fact that athletes who aren't injured take it to become superhuman, in fact he co-signed that point.

Let's stick to the facts: Manny cheated.

[Shape up]

He didn't agree with it either, his previous post stated it shouldn't be put on the banned list, you clowns will try and turn anything around and twist it to help your agenda

[IR0NFIST]

He didn't deny the fact that athletes who aren't injured take it to become superhuman, in fact he co-signed that point.

Let's stick to the facts: Manny cheated.

Facts:

- There are zero records of Pacquiao ever using toradol in the past.

- Pacquiao wasn't even given the toradol shot due to a miscommunication error by his team.

- You can't "abuse" something that you didn't actually take.

- IV infusions are banned by WADA. Toradol is not.

This thread was built on a false premise and therefore lacks integrity. You can't stack bull**** this high without it eventually collapsing back onto you.

[LoadedWraps]

He didn't agree with it either, his previous post stated it shouldn't be put on the banned list, you clowns will try and turn anything around and twist it to help your agenda

Because it isn't banned, but just because something is "legal" doesn't mean it can't be abused.

[IR0NFIST]

Because it isn't banned, but just because something is "legal" doesn't mean it can't be abused.

This is the most ******ed thing I've read so far today. While we're at it, let's ban multivitamins and protein shakes because they can potentially be "abused" as well.

At least you managed to get one thing right - Toradol is LEGAL and not listed as a banned substance on the WADA prohibited list.

[travestyny]

Funny because the very same article you referenced clarifies that toradol is "not controversial" and is "perfectly legal when administered by a doctor". But if you feel so strongly about the absence of toradol on the WADA prohibited list. Why don't you gather all of your findings and present them to the head of WADA himself? Let me know how that works out for you.

He didn't agree with it either, his previous post stated it shouldn't be put on the banned list, you clowns will try and turn anything around and twist it to help your agenda

You two fools are desperate. I notice that Ir0n Zombie ducked my question.


Do you believe that Toradol should be allowed for a boxer in his/her normal condition after someone "in the business" says this:

“…End the toradol shots...before the game,” said former NFL quarterback Chris Simms. “[it's] basically a super strong pain killer that makes your body numb. You could go run through the wall and you wouldn't really know it until two or three days later.”

So again, would that put a boxer in his/her normal state into an abnormal state? Yes or no?

Let's see you step up and answer.

[IR0NFIST]

You two fools are desperate. I notice that Ir0n Zombie ducked my question.


Do you believe that Toradol should be allowed for a boxer in his/her normal condition after someone "in the business" says this:

“…End the toradol shots...before the game,” said former NFL quarterback Chris Simms. “[it's] basically a super strong pain killer that makes your body numb. You could go run through the wall and you wouldn't really know it until two or three days later.”

So again, would that put a boxer in his/her normal state into an abnormal state? Yes or no?

Let's see you step up and answer.

Lol at "ir0n zombie". That's exactly the kind of insult I would expect from my 6 year old niece. BTW, have you sent all of that groundbreaking data on toradol to WADA yet? Maybe they'll finally decide to add it onto their prohibited list. I mean, it's been around sports for as long as 2009, yet for some reason it isn't labeled by the most prominent anti-doping agency to be a PED.