Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

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You are unable to comprehend just about anything. Stop embarrassing yourself. Let me help you out.

1. The head of a WADA lab said values that were much lower than Floyd's were normal.

2. It's idiotic for you to ask if Floyd was on ******* since that's what Jon Jones was popped for. Did you really just ask that? You're not too bright are you?

3. Jon Jones passed the drug tests at that time. If you recall, so did Daniel Cormier who had similar levels. Jon jones was later found to be taking. This obviously does not mean he was cheating the first time around.

4. Even Conte who was quoted in Hauser's article said low t/e ratio in itself does not mean someone is using.

5. I just showed you that normal ranges are around .7 to 1.3.

So what you got? Embarrassed again. How many times do I have to embarrass you? Please come back with more from your expert Bob Arum whom you quoted as saying Floyd's level should have been 2 or 3. Did you do any research into any of this at all, moron?

I didn't know you could count to 5. That's quite impressive for a fl0mo.

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I didn't know you could count to 5. That's quite impressive for a fl0mo.

Are you incapable of responding to the merits of a post, or do you just deflect with juvenile insults?

What's next? "Yo mama" jokes?

I get it. You got stumped. Go play, kid.

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Are you incapable of responding to the merits of a post, or do you just deflect with juvenile insults?

What's next? "Yo mama" jokes?

I get it. You got stumped. Go play, kid.

Your post is completely devoid of any merit. The WADA doctor's statement was made prior to Jon Jones testing positive for *******. Her opinion - although very insightful - was preconceived, and despite her effort to educate us on the complexities involving T:E ratios - Jon Jones still ended up testing positive for *******.

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Depends. Was he really hurt?

Two things: Manny stated he wasn't hurt in the checklist before the fight. Toradol is basically an enhancer if you aren't fighting pain and recovering from an injury.

Pacquiao might be the dumbest "cheater" in sports history if he wasn't hurt. Because Toradol isn't tested for, you can't detect it in urine or blood. I mean, if he wanted to cheat, why not take it in his hotel room? He brought his own physician to the dressing room after needlessly getting USADA's approval. They should've just got injected before arriving to the arena....you know, if they were trying to cheat.

Furthermore, even if it were illegal on fight night and detectable (which it's not, as far as being tested for), but hypothetically, he STILL could've had it injected because he was already on record using it during training camp...so he could've just said, "it's been in my system from prior approved use."

He marked no injury on the medical report, but still included all anti-inflammatory drugs used in camp...it's like saying yes and no to the question (his team is dumb). His team took precaution getting USADA approval for 4 different anti-inflammatory's during camp, toradol included. Only one of those medications was illegal to use on fight night, started with a "c" I believe, it wasn't toradol.

[Shape up]

But pacquaio had FULL transparency and had never had a suspect test, heactually did the right thing, not like getting a TUE 19 days after the fact, not letting the commission know asap

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What part of your post provides any evidence of blood doping?

Did Mayweather pass 19 drug tests?

Like dosump said, rumors and speculation. You should never mention the word fact in your post. You'll just continue to embarrass yourself.

Sorry but you had no evidence on Manny's injury just speculation yet you went out and started threads and so on because you were convinced that Manny did not have a FULL THICKNESS rotator cuff injury.


As for FLoyd passing some tests, Lance Armstrong boasted the same way about his tests ...... and we now know the truth that it meant NOTHING!

[Shape up]

You guys really need to stop cranking over your Floyd pictures on the wall and get some perspective, an unnessacary iv after a weigh in, if it was canelo who cuts huge amount of weight I could understand somewhat, what did Floyd cut, 2lb, it's a farce and you jokers should pull your heads that are firmly implanted in his arse out of there and ask a simple question, why

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He said his urine was extremely dark.

Ok, he seemed fine to you. What's your point. Once again, the TUE application was reviewed by an independent panel of at least 3 doctors who did not have a name connected with the application, and it was approved. The application was also sent to WADA along with the reasons it was approved.

If he was using PED's before the testing started, why the hell would he need an IV the day before the fight. Wouldn't the point be to complete it before testing starts? You guys make up so much bullshlt and none of it makes any sense.

Also, the contract allowed for the tue to be revealed. So no, it's not like Hauser went snooping and found anything. You give him too much credit for really just embarrassing himself. Just stop already, dude.

IS this the first time that Floyd's urine was dark? What did he do in the past when his urine was extremely dark? Oh yeah, he ate and drank to rehydrate himself.


As for your "independent" doctors, here is who appoints them .... BOOM!

http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/Treating_Elite_Athlete_AntiDoping_Info_for_Doctors_MarApr2015_MoMed.pdf

"It is the responsibility of the ADO (USADA) to appoint a team of qualified physicians that will serve as the TUEC and review the TUE application.

"USADA considers retroactive TUEs only in emergency circumstances, and generally requires 28 days of processing time for a TUE application."

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Pacquiao might be the dumbest "cheater" in sports history if he wasn't hurt. Because Toradol isn't tested for, you can't detect it in urine or blood. I mean, if he wanted to cheat, why not take it in his hotel room? He brought his own physician to the dressing room after needlessly getting USADA's approval. They should've just got injected before arriving to the arena....you know, if they were trying to cheat.

Furthermore, even if it were illegal on fight night and detectable (which it's not, as far as being tested for), but hypothetically, he STILL could've had it injected because he was already on record using it during training camp...so he could've just said, "it's been in my system from prior approved use."

He marked no injury on the medical report, but still included all anti-inflammatory drugs used in camp...it's like saying yes and no to the question (his team is dumb). His team took precaution getting USADA approval for 4 different anti-inflammatory's during camp, toradol included. Only one of those medications was illegal to use on fight night, started with a "c" I believe, it wasn't toradol.

Let me help you out. Ask yourself this:


1. How much time would've elapsed if Manny took the shot at the hotel until the 12th rd?


2. How can USADA "approve" treatment for an undisclosed injury?


3. Who was the treating physician?

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He was. NSAC USADA found Floyd did nothing wrong. WADA knows he did nothing wrong. Thomas Hauser tried to investigate and created a media frenzy only to find out 90% of his article was misinformation and nothing more than an editorial.


So all you have left is you and spoon. Have fun investigating.

Are you serious? That's not an investigation.

ISTUE and WADA says retro TUES are within the rules.


3 weeks is not an issue considering there must be an official diagnosis, blood work, research and whatever else by the treating physician of Floyd's medical condition AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.

WADA has clarified that the use of IV infusions to treat mild dehydration or simply accelerate recovery IS NOT an acceptable medical use of IVs in sport. For more information please read https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resource...cs-intravenous

WADA
It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.

Ok. He did say he's older and trained extremely hard. Guess I'll clap.

You must have missed it but Floyd said that for the last few days prior to the fight that he was going to relax and just do a "little bit" of exercise just to "stay sharp" and "shake out".

Floyd didn't even have to point out the obvious. Who would be working out strenuously to the point that he is severely dehydrated the day before a fight? It just does NOT make sense but at least we have Floyd admitting that he didn't.

Also, Floyd admits to making weight easily for a decade.

Now please clap if you believe BOB ARUM claims that they received a tue for TORADOL PRP treatments CELESTONE LIDOCAINE and BUPIVACAINE so Manny can run through a brick wall head first without flinching.

Go ask Arum but he was probably implying that they got USADA approval that they can use the meds come fight night. Even NSAC said that by putting the meds on the form it meant that they were signaling the potential to use it on fight night.

I posted what a doctor has to say about those meds used by Manny. The meds were for the pain and would do little to help him with any weakness that he may have had due to the FULL THICKNESS TEAR to his shoulder. Got it?


Furthermore, you must know that it would have been dumb to use those meds unless its for pain. Manny was fighting Floyd who we know threw mostly "touch" jabs" in that fight. That's what Floyd does. There was no heat from Floyd with the force of a truck or brick wall being thrown at Manny. You guys are hilarious ....



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