Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

[Zaroku]

nice to know that. so floyd lied about being dehydrated for the need of IV. noted.

Floyd lied as much as PAC! They are liars. Now your getting it, your kinda slow on the uptake.

[Dosumpthin]

1. How much time would've elapsed if Manny took the shot at the hotel until the 12th rd?


not a doctor, but if we're basing our accusations off the internet than he could've taken it well before the fight; its effects peak in 2-3 hours and can provide relief for 8 hours. And it stays in your system up to 3 days.
http://www.spine-health.com/forum/di...long-does-last
http://www.medschat.com/Discuss/How-...tem-214017.htm
pill form ^^^ and injection lasted for 12 hours for one guy:
url]https://www.drugs.com/answers/long-toradol-d-after-doctor-gave-first-1950527.html[/url]

The peak effects last 2-3 hours.

Pacquiao was already in the locker room @ 6:08pm.


“The first I heard of this was at 6.08 when he (Pacquiao) arrived in the locker room,” commission chairman Francisco Aguilar told reporters during the post-fight news conferences



What time did he leave the hotel - maybe 5pm if not earlier? If they took the shot @ the hotel, then the peak effect would be while manny was "waiting"to enter the ring.

So when Michael Koncz claims they are not cheating because cheating they could've done it earlier at the hotel - is not logical.

Besides, I thought Dr ellatrache prescribed the shot to be taken 1 hour before the fight?

Dr ellatrache, the doctor who performed the surgery after the fight, is the same doctor in the dressing room attempting to inject manny with painkiller ****tail mixed with toradol.

2. How can USADA "approve" treatment for an undisclosed injury?


They told USADA of the injury - hauser article. They had to because their doc was prescribing anti-inflammatory's they had to ensure wouldn't come up in testing.

False. Even in Thomas Hauser article "the big lie" he admits that the injury was not disclosed to USADA.

"Because the drugs are not banned, there was no need for a the****utic use exemption. Nor did USADA need to know why the drugs were being administered or have any legal obligation to report their use to the Nevada State Athletic Commission."


http://www.boxingscene.com/-big-lie--91204

Sorry. Asking if a drug is banned is not an approval. There is a TUE process for approvals.

Now you have to ask yourself - why is bob arum intentionally lying about receiving an "approval"?

Lied about notifying NSAC in writing.
Lied about receiving a TUE from USADA.

3. Who was the treating physician?

I don't know. Probably some Vegas doc he's used before. It's in the hauser article.

Dr neal ellatrache - world renown surgeon of the stars and celbrities. Boast that he performs 500 surgeries a year. Team doctor for The la rams nfl and la dodgers mbl, two sports known for widespread toradol abuse.

The point still stands, it's not TESTED for, if Manny tried to cheat, he went about it ALL WRONG and he disclosed using it on the medical report. How is this so hard to wrap your brain around? I'm not explaining time travel.

On the contrary, they essentially planned everything right. They attempted to cheat and had the perfect alibi if ever caught. They even had an alibi for the alibi.

[travestyny]

name calling, picking on incorrect spelling is a way for him to feel better about himself when he has nothing left to say. very typical. when having a debate with him expect to see a lot of these --

"haha you lose", "i win, go away now" "are you gonna answer my question, i dare you", etc.

Look at you crying to posters that have been beat up by me just as much as you have. Wahhhh wahhhh.

Go back and check the dialogue that I had with that clown, and you will see why name calling was brought up in the first place. It's because I called the dude out on not being able to discuss facts, but instead deflecting to puerile insults. I usually try to keep things civil until someone gets disrespectful, then the gloves come off.

Stop crying and take your lumps like a man.

Actually, instead of crying, maybe you'll be willing to answer why Pac's famous doctor you were praising (you know, the one you said is the main reason Pac's injury was legit) was in Pac's dressing room attempting to shoot him up with toradol before the commission stopped him. Now, what doctor would shoot an athlete up with toradol when:

1. Said doctor said the athlete was already at normal strength.

2. The doctor admit that the shot was not needed.

3. Two NSAC doctors checked out Manny and found him to be fine.

4. The rule is that a boxer should go into a match in a normal state, and toradol, when used by a fighter that is in a normal state, would clearly put the fighter in an abnormal state. This would clearly be CHEATING!

5. Toradol would be an odd choice since it numbs the entire body. A local pain-killer would have been more appropriate.

So what do you have to say now about Dr. Neal ElAttrache? Was he trying to help Pacquiao to cheat? Was he just doing what he was told to earn those front row seats? Why the hell was he even needed? Any nurse could have stuck a syringe in Manny. Was he part of Manny's entourage or just an independent doctor?

I'll keep it civil. waiting for your honest answer.

[WesternChamp]

Floyd lied as much as PAC! They are liars. Now your getting it, your kinda slow on the uptake.

glad we on the same page. could of swore you were just hinting that pac is a liar a page back but no mention of floyd doing the same

do you want me to take a pic when the jammie comes in doing the famous import model peace sign with it?

[WesternChamp]

right on que!! told yall..

"beat up", "i win", "you lose" LOL

[Zaroku]

glad we on the same page. could of swore you were just hinting that pac is a liar a page back but no mention of floyd doing the same

do you want me to take a pic when the jammie comes in doing the famous import model peace sign with it?

Both are liars. Who is Jammie? I'm older, so forgive me kid.

[Dosumpthin]

right on que!! told yall..

"beat up", "i win", "you lose" LOL

That's your comeback to those facts? Lol.

You can't answer why Dr ellatrache aka the vitiman T man is in the dressing room?


You really getting beat up. Looks like he won.

And you lost.


Damn. He destroyed you. Lol. Run along. Go play.


Smh.


Rofl.

[Zaroku]

Look at you crying to posters that have been beat up by me just as much as you have. Wahhhh wahhhh.

Go back and check the dialogue that I had with that clown, and you will see why name calling was brought up in the first place. It's because I called the dude out on not being able to discuss facts, but instead deflecting to puerile insults. I usually try to keep things civil until someone gets disrespectful, then the gloves come off.

Stop crying and take your lumps like a man.

Actually, instead of crying, maybe you'll be willing to answer why Pac's famous doctor you were praising (you know, the one you said is the main reason Pac's injury was legit) was in Pac's dressing room attempting to shoot him up with toradol before the commission stopped him. Now, what doctor would shoot an athlete up with toradol when:

1. Said doctor said the athlete was already at normal strength.

2. The doctor admit that the shot was not needed.

3. Two NSAC doctors checked out Manny and found him to be fine.

4. The rule is that a boxer should go into a match in a normal state, and toradol, when used by a fighter that is in a normal state, would clearly put the fighter in an abnormal state. This would clearly be CHEATING!

5. Toradol would be an odd choice since it numbs the entire body. A local pain-killer would have been more appropriate.

So what do you have to say now about Dr. Neal ElAttrache? Was he trying to help Pacquiao to cheat? Was he just doing what he was told to earn those front row seats? Why the hell was he even needed? Any nurse could have stuck a syringe in Manny. Was he part of Manny's entourage or just an independent doctor?

I'll keep it civil. waiting for your honest answer.

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[WesternChamp]

lol yeah mijo mad..

[WesternChamp]

Both are liars. Who is Jammie? I'm older, so forgive me kid.

im in my mid 30s, didnt you said you were gonna send me a pac pajamas? you're forgiven sir, all i wanted was for you to tell the truth, which you did. good job. my dad is complete now. carry on ladies.