Joe Louis's resume vs. Tyson Fury's resume

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  • juggernaut666
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    #21
    Originally posted by b0x
    Well you'll have to wait cause it won't happen div! You'll be sucking Tyson's toes when he wrecks your heroes. Shame you haven't took note of the first Klitschko fight, you just can't see the skills. Wlad got neutralised just like your idol AJ will, and you and plunger will have to take his posters down off your wall and hide them in shame.
    All Wlads knock downs were from getting pressured ,Brewster , Sanders , the Nigerian nightmare Peters .....you are the reason why most ppl think his fans are semi ******ed !

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      #22
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      Well if you are using the who has the better win criteria then most HW champions and even non champions have a better resume than Louis . I think judging resumes you have to take into account era and relevance of opposition when they won , Wlad at any age would spark out anyone Louis fought but i wouldn't say at the moment Furys resume itself is better than a guy who dominated a decade..

      Resumes have to have some consistency to them...Louis fought multiple top level guys , Fury only one.

      Ironically the top 5 worst posters are on this very thread theres 3 of them and one is below me and admits hes a huge ass the other needs to include a few words to his name like smart as a box of rocks ,and the other so out of the loop its not worth going into !
      Better win: Fury
      Undefeated: Fury
      Quantity: Louis
      KO percentage: Louis

      That's how I see it. Louis didn't have any good opponents to fight and when he finally fought one, he was shot and got knocked out.

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      • MisterPullman
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        #23
        Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
        Racist? How? Ward is the best fighter in the world and before him, Mayweather was the best fighter in the world and before him, Lennox Lewis was the best fighter in the world. Black people are the best fighters.
        Good job exposing yourself you dip **** troll.

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          #24
          Originally posted by b0x
          What did he expose? I'm white but have no problem admitting the FACT that there were more elite black boxers over the last 30 years than white ones. Same goes with 100m sprints. Tell me I'm wrong LOL. As the poverty gap narrows the difference will tighten up. But it hasn't just yet. Generally black fighters tend to have longer arms and a host of other physiological differences that offer benefits in certain sports. I think also a higher center of gravity which offers greater mobility (hence more slick black fighters). Look it up, the science is out there.
          He's an idiot. He won't listen to reason.

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            #25
            Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
            Better win: Fury
            Undefeated: Fury
            Quantity: Louis
            KO percentage: Louis

            That's how I see it. Louis didn't have any good opponents to fight and when he finally fought one, he was shot and got knocked out.

            Hend already pointed this out, but Joe had plenty of very very good wins over several hall of famers. Tyson has exactly one win over a future HoFer.

            Jersey Joe walcott is a better win. He holds two wins over Ezzard Charles. What single win does Wlad have that compares to that? Wlad's resume is'nt even as good as Joe's yet somehow Fury beating him launches Tyson to a better resume?

            Undefeated means squat. Talk to me when his career is over.

            Joe has the advantage in quantity and quality. You could list the 5 best wins between Wlad and Fury and it still would'nt compare to Joe. Hell you could list the 5 best wins of active heavyweights and it would'nt compare to Joe.

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              #26
              Originally posted by DreamerUSA
              Hend already pointed this out, but Joe had plenty of very very good wins over several hall of famers. Tyson has exactly one win over a future HoFer.

              Jersey Joe walcott is a better win. He holds two wins over Ezzard Charles. What single win does Wlad have that compares to that? Wlad's resume is'nt even as good as Joe's yet somehow Fury beating him launches Tyson to a better resume?

              Undefeated means squat. Talk to me when his career is over.

              Joe has the advantage in quantity and quality. You could list the 5 best wins between Wlad and Fury and it still would'nt compare to Joe. Hell you could list the 5 best wins of active heavyweights and it would'nt compare to Joe.
              Mention one of Louis's opponents that wouldn't get blasted into another dimension by David Haye, lol. All those small guys with primitive skills wouldn't stand a chance.

              Do you seriosly think Schmelling or Baer would stand a chance against Haye?

              Charles and Walcott are not that good. Their records are full of losses to guys who are not even worthy of tying David Haye's shoes.

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                #27
                Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
                Better win: Fury
                Undefeated: Fury
                Quantity: Louis
                KO percentage: Louis

                That's how I see it. Louis didn't have any good opponents to fight and when he finally fought one, he was shot and got knocked out.
                Undefeated has little to do with resumes as does H2H comparisons , i can almost certainly tell you Fury is going to fall short even if he continues bc Wlad will be odds on fav to win and Joshua is going to mug him and he will have Wilder somwhere in between which is a 50 /50 fight.

                Of course no one in the Louis era stacks up today but thats not how you compare resumes .
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 09-06-2016, 01:02 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by DreamerUSA
                  Hend already pointed this out, but Joe had plenty of very very good wins over several hall of famers. Tyson has exactly one win over a future HoFer.

                  Jersey Joe walcott is a better win. He holds two wins over Ezzard Charles. What single win does Wlad have that compares to that? Wlad's resume is'nt even as good as Joe's yet somehow Fury beating him launches Tyson to a better resume?

                  Undefeated means squat. Talk to me when his career is over.

                  Joe has the advantage in quantity and quality. You could list the 5 best wins between Wlad and Fury and it still would'nt compare to Joe. Hell you could list the 5 best wins of active heavyweights and it would'nt compare to Joe.
                  Wlad for his era is more impressive than Louis ever was ,Wlad looked more impressive against bigger punchers as well than what Louis had to face.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    Fury beat a 41 year old Wlad who was many years past his prime and Fury has yet to defend his title even once. Louis won his title at a much younger age by beating a champion still in his prime. Fury won the title in one of the most boring and least action fights ever seen. There were no hard punches landed by either man. Louis won his title with one of the most vicious 1st round knockouts ever seen. Louis successfully defended his title a record 25 times and beat everyone there was to beat. Fury is already considering retirement. You might be the only boxing fan alive who thinks Fury's resume is superior to the resume of the legendary, all time great Joe Louis. Some English boxing fans overrated their country's best boxers and you are guilty of doing that to the extreme.
                    Not English here, but the TS has made good points. I think once Fury defends his titles against AJ, Wilder, Parker, Briggs, Povetkin, and Ustinov, I think not only does Fury blow Louis away, but he may very well go down as the HW GOAT when it's all said and done. I don't see anyone in the division who is a serious threat. In 10 years, that may change, but it also may not.

                    Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
                    Mention one of Louis's opponents that wouldn't get blasted into another dimension by David Haye, lol. All those small guys with primitive skills wouldn't stand a chance.

                    Do you seriosly think Schmelling or Baer would stand a chance against Haye?

                    Charles and Walcott are not that good. Their records are full of losses to guys who are not even worthy of tying David Haye's shoes.
                    Charles and Walcott are great wins and great names on any resume, any version of them. Just stop.
                    Last edited by LoadedWraps; 09-06-2016, 01:20 PM.

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                    • j0zef
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                      #30
                      How is this joke of a thread still going?

                      Fury has one win over a good fighter who was 39 years old. And he did it while landing 5 punches per round. Let's not even bring up that before Fury's win, Wlad was seen as crappy, exposed, previously KTFO, fighter who was fighting in the weakest HW era ever.

                      As soon as Fury won, you're comparing him to Joe ***ing Louis? Let's compare Salka to SRL while you're at it.

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