Boxing would be best with 2 or 3 belts.

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  • Adonis Creed
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    Boxing would be best with 2 or 3 belts.

    If you look at the champions list bscene counts there are 5 major titles per division. Some people like the UFC model of 1 belt per division but 2 or 3 max with interim champions if there's an injury would be the best for the sport.
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    I don't see the appeal for more than 1 belt & an interim champ if necessary due to injury. To me there can only be one champion. F#ck unification hype among two title holders. Becoming a champion & fighting for THE title should be what is getting hype.

    There was a time when winning a title was something big & if you couldn't win a tile just fighting for it meant something for a fighter & if you couldn't fight for one becoming a top ten contender meant something for a fighter. Now we got 4+ titles so thats super watered down, who knows how many guys get title fight each year in each division so thats extremely watered down & there are as many as 40 different fighters who can claim to be top ten fighters so thats epically watered down. I wanna go back when just being a among THE top ten was a meaningful thing for a fighter.

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    • MasterPlan
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      #3
      Originally posted by Adonis Creed
      If you look at the champions list bscene counts there are 5 major titles per division. Some people like the UFC model of 1 belt per division but 2 or 3 max with interim champions if there's an injury would be the best for the sport.
      UFC is just a league inside MMA. You can't compare is really. Because you have Bellator and other leagues.

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      • CaneloMaidana
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        #4
        Boxing had the WBC and WBA belt until late 80s. The IBF and WBO hurt boxing. Now Golovkin has HBO claiming the IBO belt.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          I don't see the appeal for more than 1 belt & an interim champ if necessary due to injury. To me there can only be one champion. F#ck unification hype among two title holders. Becoming a champion & fighting for THE title should be what is getting hype.

          There was a time when winning a title was something big & if you couldn't win a tile just fighting for it meant something for a fighter & if you couldn't fight for one becoming a top ten contender meant something for a fighter. Now we got 4+ titles so thats super watered down, who knows how many guys get title fight each year in each division so thats extremely watered down & there are as many as 40 different fighters who can claim to be top ten fighters so thats epically watered down. I wanna go back when just being a among THE top ten was a meaningful thing for a fighter.
          Back in the day it meant something and there was real competition to even be top 10.I hate when guys parade around for being 2 weight champs or something because EVERYTHING in boxing seems watered down.


          Originally posted by MasterPlan
          UFC is just a league inside MMA. You can't compare is really. Because you have Bellator and other leagues.
          In a way but most people agree the UFC champ is the top fighter in the world and has most top contenders.

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            #6
            2 may be ideal. In MMA the UFC vs Pride rivalry seemed to keep each organization on their toes.

            A monopoly (say PBC taking off and making their own belt) is scary because boxing is so corrupt and you could pretty much assume fighters from a certain nationalities being spoon-fed titles, which pretty much describes the "glory days" of US boxing and is the reason new titles popped up.

            Obviously the 4-5 we have now is way too much.
            Last edited by ////; 09-04-2016, 03:21 PM.

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            • M Bison
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              #7
              One belt per division and problem solved this will stop people ducking unifications.

              If we're to have more than one belt I'd just keep the WBA and the WBC I don't really care for the WBO, IBF and whatever other belts there are likely around that are considered a world title.

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              • Adonis Creed
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                #8
                Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
                Boxing had the WBC and WBA belt until late 80s. The IBF and WBO hurt boxing. Now Golovkin has HBO claiming the IBO belt.
                I remember when they stated calling WBO a major belt now they added IBO too. I'd be fine with WBC, WBA,and IBF.

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                • Adonis Creed
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Red Cyclone
                  One belt per division and problem solved this will stop people ducking unifications.

                  If we're to have more than one belt I'd just keep the WBA and the WBC I don't really care for the WBO, IBF and whatever other belts there are likely around that are considered a world title.
                  I'd say 2, 3 tops. You'd have to fight tough comp if that was the case.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MasterPlan
                    UFC is just a league inside MMA. You can't compare is really. Because you have Bellator and other leagues.
                    Its an unfair comparison due to how boxing is setup vs the landscape of MMA which was up for grabs when the UFC dipped their toe in the MMA pool I'd agree, but if you follow MMA you know that the UFC has a lock on the top fighters that is similar to the best basketball players in the world being in the NBA. The UFC probably has 95%+ of the top ten guys in each MMA division in the UFC & probably 75%+ of the top twenty guys in each MMA division in the UFC. They got a stranglehold on the top guys so being the UFC champion is being the MMA champion even if there are some serious talents outside the UFC like Ben Asken & Andrey Koreshkov kinda cats who could probably compete with the best UFC guys & perhaps beat them. But in theory you could create a "UFC" like league in MMA & I speculate thats what PBC could eventually become further down the line & I'd even further speculate someone else will eventually accomplish just that cuz thats what boxing needs if its ever going to maximize its impact on sports & in the sports business with the most fans supporting boxing.

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