Any Theories as to Brook's weight gain?

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  • Ray*
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    #41
    Who knows what his plans are, saw him sleeping in warm water the other day. It all looks amateurish to be honest, with his fitness coach Danny Wilson talking about getting his muscle relax etc, hope all that science would help in the ring. Science or not science he needs to avoid taking too many hard punches from a genuine MW. Taking a punch from a WW and now MW is a whole different ball game.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Who knows what his plans are, saw him sleeping in warm water the other day. It all looks amateurish to be honest, with his fitness coach Danny Wilson talking about getting his muscle relax etc, hope all that science would help in the ring. Science or not science he needs to avoid taking too many hard punches from a genuine MW. Taking a punch from a WW and now MW is a whole different ball game.
      Yes that's a good point. Brook's done so many new things to make this fight (science related). GGG just been in Big Bear as usual. Is all this science going to help. There's a little hint of Rocky vs Drago going on here. Except Brook is Drago in training. GGG Drago in the ring. lol

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        #43
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
        The fighters and coaches that say Brook is too small and not a natural MW don't know about strength and conditioning? The guys at the university can't perform miracles.
        All the coaches that have trained with him say the opposite.

        https://<iframe width="560" height="...reen></iframe>

        Molina's trainer says Kell was walking around at 185

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          #44
          Originally posted by bigdramashow
          he is on a program backed by science using cutting edge training techniques to ensure he puts on lean muscle mass whilst retaining the explosiveness and speed that made him such a feared fighter at 147. I saw the exercises on behind the ropes, hes been doing a lot of speed work.
          But there is a huge problem - he is he is now cutting weight because he was at 167 a week before the fight which is absurd for a guy who moved up 2 divisions! The LAST thing a welterweight should be doing is cutting weight to make 160!!! That is ridiculous.

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            #45
            Originally posted by richardt
            But there is a huge problem - he is he is now cutting weight because he was at 167 a week before the fight which is absurd for a guy who moved up 2 divisions! The LAST thing a welterweight should be doing is cutting weight to make 160!!! That is ridiculous.
            It's odd isn't it. I mean sureeely the sensible thing would be to be cutting 1/2 lbs at the very most. If at all, maybe even coming in an lbs under? Who knowws what's going on though?

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              #46
              Originally posted by PivotandRoll
              All the coaches that have trained with him say the opposite.

              https://<iframe width="560" height="...reen></iframe>

              Molina's trainer says Kell was walking around at 185
              Walk around weight and fighting weight aren't the same thing. He says if they had same day weigh-ins Brook would be a MW which is true (he weighs around 156 on fight night when at WW), where he's wrong is when he says Golovkin would be a MW too (Golovkin weighs around 170 on fight night), Golovkin would be a LHW. Still a two division difference in size.
              Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 09-04-2016, 12:06 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by MPX309
                Ok apart from the obvious he's moved up. . . But there are videos with other trainers on the Yoobletooble that he's put on too much too sooon. . . . Sooo, does anyone have any ideas or theories as why what Brook's plan is with all this? Do you think he wants to be able to clinch with GGG? Which would be a mistake either way IMO, Or is he gonna shred that body buildingesque muscle to leave lean muscle on fight night? I dunnooo, What ya'll got?
                Just my two cents, Golovkin's not a one-punch KO guy at 160lbs, and Kell Brook and his camp seem to understand this; Golovkin gets the refs to step in by having a guy stand in front of him and unloading shots for 7-10 rounds.

                I personally think he went a bit far with the bulking up, but my guess is that his camp figured that, if they can get Brook sturdy enough to deal with the wear of taking shots from a middleweight (who isn't this murderous puncher), Brook's boxing ability will show through and he'll have the chance to win the fight (put a guy who moves in front of Golovkin, and he looks terrible).

                For all the talk of Brook avoiding the clinch with Golovkin, Golovkin doesn't even really fight on the inside anyway; let him sit at mid-range and he looks like a friggin legend.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  Just my two cents, Golovkin's not a one-punch KO guy at 160lbs, and Kell Brook and his camp seem to understand this; Golovkin gets the refs to step in by having a guy stand in front of him and unloading shots for 7-10 rounds.

                  I personally think he went a bit far with the bulking up, but my guess is that his camp figured that, if they can get Brook sturdy enough to deal with the wear of taking shots from a middleweight (who isn't this murderous puncher), Brook's boxing ability will show through and he'll have the chance to win the fight (put a guy who moves in front of Golovkin, and he looks terrible).

                  For all the talk of Brook avoiding the clinch with Golovkin, Golovkin doesn't even really fight on the inside anyway; let him sit at mid-range and he looks like a friggin legend.
                  Actually Brook need to get GGG in a clinch, Brook is very good at that too. Leaving GGG at mid range would give him a chance to stretch his arm for his power punches.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by bigdramashow
                    he is on a program backed by science using cutting edge training techniques to ensure he puts on lean muscle mass whilst retaining the explosiveness and speed that made him such a feared fighter at 147. I saw the exercises on behind the ropes, hes been doing a lot of speed work.
                    I'm a fan of Kell Brook but... I laughed.

                    Who the fk feared him? Besides Khan. And Khan's fear wasn't of Brook himself but scared of getting humiliated in his home country by one of his own countryman.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Just my two cents, Golovkin's not a one-punch KO guy at 160lbs, and Kell Brook and his camp seem to understand this; Golovkin gets the refs to step in by having a guy stand in front of him and unloading shots for 7-10 rounds.

                      I personally think he went a bit far with the bulking up, but my guess is that his camp figured that, if they can get Brook sturdy enough to deal with the wear of taking shots from a middleweight (who isn't this murderous puncher), Brook's boxing ability will show through and he'll have the chance to win the fight (put a guy who moves in front of Golovkin, and he looks terrible).

                      For all the talk of Brook avoiding the clinch with Golovkin, Golovkin doesn't even really fight on the inside anyway; let him sit at mid-range and he looks like a friggin legend.
                      Interesting thoughts, could be true yes. But the choice of sparring partners seems odd. They had Liam Smith (Obviously Liam has a fight coming up too so they probably helped eachother out) when I think Callum Smith is a better replicant of GGG (well between those two atleast) . . . Hooks to the body that you don't see. even slightly similar in frame. I was against this fight for a while, still am inna small sort of way, but just gonna enjoy it now for the spectacle that it is. I am a fan of boxing at the end of the day, and this is one of the biggest fights of the year for us UK folks so might aswell enjoy it.

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