Comments Thread For: Daniel Jacobs: We Called Out Golovkin Months Ago, I Can Win!

[The Hammer]

I took this photo of Daniel Jacobs:

[Scipio2009]

Why is every reply I get so ******? Unless Canelo can get Pacquiao or Floyd again, GGG is the biggest money fight for him, and in boxing, period. GGG knows Canelo will try to shaft him completely as a ruse to duck the fight, so he is posturing. He will likely get a bad deal anyway but at least this way he sets up negotiations so that he only has to take 5% less than is fair, rather than 20% less.

GGG is only concerned about getting WHAT IS FAIR with Canelo. The difference with Jacobs is he is already being offered more than fair money against GGG, twice his career payday even though his fight vs Quillin got terrible, terrible ratings on Showitme, but he won't take the fight.

1. GGG is just concerned Canelo will lowball the **** out of him to duck the fight, but since Canelo wouldn't even negotiate with him, we don't even have any evidence to go on. We all know GGG will take that fight the moment it is offered with anything approaching fair terms.

2. Jacobs has already been offered more than fair money, and has said GGG is so good, he won't take the fight for fair money, unlike GGG with Canelo. He wants "superstar" "megafight" money instead, even though he doesn't bring that kind of value.

See the difference now? The difference between overpricing yourself to duck a great fighter, which Jacobs is doing, and preempting negotiations to make sure an overrated fighter like Canelo doesn't lowball you as a way to duck you?

It's not that hard to understand but if you're biased as hell you will always twist your thoughts to try to find these false equivalencies. Please man, please. Stop trying so hard to deny the obvious truth, stop tripping all over yourself, and just admit GGG is the goods, and everyone keeps finding new ways to duck him. Did you miss the latest episode which is why GGG is fighting Brook in the first place? The Eubanks not agreeing to fight him after lengthy negotiatons? Just like GGG-Chavez jr was all negotiated and they found a way out? And GGG-Froch was all negotiated and Froch retired? Just like Canelo said he wouldn't **** around and Oscar said he'd call Tom Loeffler the next day to negotiate, and then that got delayed supposedly because of the trial? But instead of giving up and moving on like Oscar wanted Team GGG to do so he could use the trial as an excuse, Loeffler wasted another month until after the trial, holding out hope to make the fight, and Oscar said they would negotiate after, but then when that time came, Canelo dropped the belt instead? And now Danny Jacobs less than a year ago I believe saying he'd be ready for GGG in "2 or 3 years," but now that he's taking heat, he decided to "call out" GGG two days after he signed to fight Brook, but since that was the weakest call out in history where Jacobs demanded crazy money, now he's saying he might be ready nowish, except for all the subtle statements about "building his brand" first and "if not this year" and "in the future" and "superstar PPV megafight" money and even if got offered twice his career payday, he may as well just "fight two Quillin's" instead because GGG is so damn scary to all these guys, Danny Jacobs feel less threatened by two Quillin's and two training camps worth of expenses than one GGG for the same money and only one training camp of expense?

Just stop lying to yourself man for real. None of these guys want to fight GGG either because GGG is so damn good, or they're not very good, or they think GGG is really good, whether he is or not. Whatever you want to say the cause is, they are afraid of him and only want to fight him if they get a retirement-level payday, because that's what they think will happen, that he will retire them, or put an end to the high-earning days of their career.

People used to say every welterweight was dying to win the Floyd lottery to get that big payday. Guess how much that often was? 1.5 mil, 2 mil, unless it was a Canelo or Pacquiao type guy. And that was called a "lottery" payment. Now Jacobs is getting offered at least 3 mil to fight GGG, and that's not enough? Come on you are a student of the game so you know what it is man. Stop lying to yourself.

Alvarez is going to likely get $15m (once you count the Mexico TV, the money from the live event, and his share off of the PPV) or more off of the Liam Smith fight.

How much more than $15m do you honestly see Alvarez getting for fighting Golovkin, especially seeing that Golovkin did so **** business on his debut PPV that K2 nixed the idea of trying again going forward (not to mention the late shenanigans they've been pulling on the gate)?

Golovkin has never made more than $2m on a fight, yet his opening gambit is that $3m + the Germany/EU TV rights to the fight is a bull**** offer. gtfoh

On September 12th (Monday morning), the WBA will mandate the fight, and the value of the fight will be worth whatever someone is willing to dig into their pocket to put up and host the fight; a Brooklynite survivor of cancer, fighting the "middleweight king" in his home borough (nevermind the city) is worth far more to DiBella/Showtime than you seem willing to acknowledge.

Floyd was the lottery ticket, for the simple fact that outside of Oscar De La Hoya (and likely Cotto), a fight against Floyd was literally worth 2-3 tmes the money that any of these fighters had ever made on a fight in their career.

Marcos Maidana toiled in boxing for as long as he did, fought Floyd twice, and literally made so much money that he immedaitely walked away from the sport (as his family, and likely his son's family, are set for the rest of their life).

Golovkin isn't even offering guys paydays that match their current career highs.

you played yourself

[GGG Gloveking]

Jacobs never disappeared.

He's been GGG's mando for some time now.

On May 11 the WBA said they would not interefere with Canelo-GGG negotiations, and would order the Jacobs fight if those negotiations fell through. On May 13, Jacobs announced that he was fighting TBA at the Barclays center on July 30 (or 31, whichever that Saturday was). That to me, is a disappearing act. If Jacobs really wanted a fight with Golovkin, he could have waited one week (after being inactive all year) for Golovkin.

As it happened, Jacobs did not even fight at the Barclays that night, it was Frampton v Santa Cruz.

[Scipio2009]

What does this have to do with Jacobs saying 2 months ago that he would fight GGG in a year and a half, and now saying he was calling GGG out? I never said anything about money

Daniel Jacobs is ready and willing to fight anyone with the money right, the WBA is going to mandate Golovkin-Jacobs the Monday after Golovkin-Brook, and DiBella/Showtime likely see enough value in staging Golovkin-Jacobs at the Barclays Center and likely on SHOPPV (or on CBS, if the parties can come up with the $2m-$4m likely needed for the US TV rights fee) as being worth more than enough to compensate Jacobs fairly.

when K2 and Golovkin back out, I hope you don't hide behind some other alt account.

[Scipio2009]

Here's a reason Jacobs loses to GGG that has nothing to do with Pirog.

Jacobs came in reckless, after hitting Mora with some **** that had him really shook up, and got hit with a check hook as Mora was desperately trying to use his legs to create some kind of space.

Jacobs got up immediately, too.

context is a *****

[Scipio2009]

When you call out somebody, you're obligated to prove your sincerity by contacting the other guy's management team if they happen to ignore your calls. Otherwise, it's all just smoke and mirrors.

If Jacobs' representative contacted Golovkin's management and stated that they believed that they could split a guaranteed $4m for a fight on Showtime, what would you imagine the response would've been?

Probably the same type of nonsense that came up with the Stevenson-Kovalev talks.

[aboutfkntime]

I remember that.

GGG passed on Mora to face the dreaded Osumanu Adama....and got tagged by that mummy.

It wasn't just the fact that they passed on that fight, it was the manner in which they passed on it.

It was the fact that a former champion who has clearly faded is the very best possible opponent for a fighter who is trying to establish himself..... and boxing has ALWAYS worked that way.

At that point in time, Mora would have been perfect.

I heard a Loeffler interview about 2-3 years ago, where he was asked about Mora..... as the interviewer was asking the question about Mora, I was thinking "perfect", he is a name opponent who has clearly faded, Mora will be perfect for Golovkin..... but the excuses that came from Loeffler were absurd, he did exactly what he did when it came to Ward/Lara..... instead of giving 1 genuine reason why that fight was simply unthinkable, he used every excuse on the book, and all of those excuses were rubbish.

When people use every single (weak) excuse in the book, it is because they do not have 1 genuine reason..... or they would simply state that reason.

All 3 of those guys are - mover/spoilers who are notoriously difficult to look good against..... the guys who Golovkin is fighting are "available".

I know exactly whats up..... and, again..... boxing has always worked that way.

[GGG Gloveking]

Daniel Jacobs is ready and willing to fight anyone with the money right, the WBA is going to mandate Golovkin-Jacobs the Monday after Golovkin-Brook, and DiBella/Showtime likely see enough value in staging Golovkin-Jacobs at the Barclays Center and likely on SHOPPV (or on CBS, if the parties can come up with the $2m-$4m likely needed for the US TV rights fee) as being worth more than enough to compensate Jacobs fairly.

when K2 and Golovkin back out, I hope you don't hide behind some other alt account.

Once again, all you're talking about is money. My original post had absolutely zero to do with money. I spoke about the seeming contradiction of Jacobs saying now that he has been calling out Golovkin for months, yet 2 months ago, he said the fight would be in the timeframe of about 18 months from now. He didn't say anything about money. He said a year and a half from late June. I dont have an alt, Im not making an alt. If your scenario of Haymon winning a purse bid and Golovkin vacating comes true, I will say it is a b itch move by GGG to drop the belt. Ive already said that

[aboutfkntime]

jacobs did 350ish ratings on reuglar showtime. golovkin does around 3 times that.

he's pricing himself out. you're pointing fingers at the wrong people if you think a career high payday for jacobs is less than he deserves considering he does less than 400K on showtime.

Regardless as whether you are correct or not - and I suspect not - Jacobs will never fight Golovkin for the same money that he made for Quillin..... and that point really is obvious..... especially not after watching a relatively-unknown largely-unproven welterweight make 4mil.

The same with Saunders.

Offering those guys 1.5mil was ridiculous, and was obviously NOT the best possible offer they could have made...... you arguing that (in YOUR opinion) Jacobs doesn't deserve the money, is completely irrelevant..... especially considering Brook got 4mil + PPV that he did nothing to earn..... the fact is, they could have offered Jacobs more, but they CHOSE not to.

[Wizardsh]

Ggg vs Jacob is a waste of time Jacob is pure garbage and a bum. This is more of a fight to shut the sell out Larrys up. Hope it happens so ggg can eventually move up in weight in a couple more fights