Comments Thread For: Golovkin: Canelo is Not Smart, He's Scared, Golden Boy is Scared!

[AnimalisticMeth]

Lets all be honest. Canelo stands no chance at all in besting Golovkin. Golovkin has more power, stronger, bigger, better boxing. Once Canelo who has no idea how to fight going backwards gets hurt it will be all she wrote. Golden Boy are protecting their investment and triying to prolong this fight till GGG shows signs of slowing down. Once GGG is beatable they will fight him in like 2018 or 2019

[Don Pichardo]

There is literally only one reason why this fight isnt happening: GBP is absolutely petrified that GGG will demolish Canelo and it will effect his future earning power as a result

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[Don Pichardo]

Lets all be honest. Canelo stands no chance at all in besting Golovkin. Golovkin has more power, stronger, bigger, better boxing. Once Canelo who has no idea how to fight going backwards gets hurt it will be all she wrote. Golden Boy are protecting their investment and triying to prolong this fight till GGG shows signs of slowing down. Once GGG is beatable they will fight him in like 2018 or 2019

I disagree that Canelo has no chance. I believe he does. I do however believe his chances of winning aren't the highest. I give it a 65 ggg vs 35 Canelo

[RightJabLikeZab]

People are in this thread running to defend Canelo and Fishnets yet a lot probably complain about how boxing is dead and how networks/promoters/boxing organizations are shady and screw **** up.

[Fox427]

1) This very website just posted an article, quoting Golovkin stating that Alvarez is likely to offer him $3m as a meaans to lowball him to duck the fight.

2) If the most money that you've ever made in a fight was $2m, a 50% increase on your career-high purse isn't something you'd just reject out of hand. negotiations are going to happen, but to act as if that's a slap in the face makes you look foolish.

3) Golovkin, his camp, and Golovkin's fans have made it a point of their existence to **** on fighters/managers who talk about the money when Golovkin's name is brought up; the moment that Golovkin does the exact same thing that his fans have derided other folks for, everyone goes quiet, forgets what they were saying beforehand, and do everything in their power to justify the flip.

4)In a world where more fighters are free of indebtured servitude to a promoter, "counting money" helps set the stage to "watch great fights".

Keith Thurman and Shawn Porter had to get the money right, to then give us their great fight. No different than what set the stage for Santa Cruz-Frampton, Broner-Porter, Jacobs-Quillin, and the host of other top-level fights already in the cue.

1) " This very website just posted an article, quoting Golovkin stating that Alvarez is likely to offer him $3m as a meaans to lowball him to duck the fight." - I still don't see $3 mil here, it says $2 mil, can you point where exactly it says $3 mil? And you do realize by $2 mil he was giving an example(possibility, likelyhood) of Canelo's lowballing, whether it is $2 mil or $3 mil it is still very low for GGG because it will be mega fight and will generate tons of money.

2) "If the most money that you've ever made in a fight was $2m, a 50% increase on your career-high purse isn't something you'd just reject out of hand. negotiations are going to happen, but to act as if that's a slap in the face makes you look foolish." - Again, I dont see $3 mil here but lets help you and say Canelo offers $4 mil(100%) and GGG rejects it. Do you think it is fair? how much do you think Canelo would get from this fight?

"3) Golovkin, his camp, and Golovkin's fans have made it a point of their existence to **** on fighters/managers who talk about the money when Golovkin's name is brought up; the moment that Golovkin does the exact same thing that his fans have derided other folks for, everyone goes quiet, forgets what they were saying beforehand, and do everything in their power to justify the flip." - I simple don't agree with this statement! Did you see a video with Eddie Hearn recently? Where he says that GGG was willing to face Darren Barker for free? And even then they rejected fight because they were that scared! Can you find me a professional fighter that can come to hometown of a particular fighter and fight for free?

"4)In a world where more fighters are free of indebtured servitude to a promoter, "counting money" helps set the stage to "watch great fights"." - You mean like Oscar Dela Hoya doing now?

And again, still didn't get answer to the most important question. As a boxing fan I want to know other boxing fans opinion, what they value most and what they expect from fighters/promoters. Please stop giving us vague answers, so lets do it third time: What do you chose? "Counting money"(A) or "watching great fights"(B)? Please answer A or B. Then proceed to other questions. Thanks.

[richardt]

he is CLEARLY, PLAINLY, OBVIOUSLY, not a middleweight LMAO

you, thinking that Canelo could never have dropped that 1lb, is a bit silly

he obviously could have made 154..... it is 1 fkn pound FFS

ridiculous

I really can't be fk'd, but I will make a small effort

when Canelo was a welter, he weighed in at 150 (don't believe me, go check boxrec..... because he had a NUMBER of fights at 150 when campaigning at welter, 155 AINT Canelo's first rodeo LMAO).... and when Canelo was a JMW, he weighed in at 155.

Reynoso has explained why on multiple occasions..... they do it for non-title fights to preserve Saul's career.

It is fkn lame, and unprofessional, in my book..... but to assume it means that Canelo could not possibly have knocked off that extra pound..... is pushing sensibility.

To insinuate that Canelo could not possibly drop that extra pound is pushing sensibility..... but not as badly as referring to 155 as "middleweight".

Don't be that guy man.

WHY do you think he had catchweights???? Because he could not make 154 any longer! Now he has backed himself in a corner and has to go through a struggle which means he doesn't belong at 154 and is not a junior middleweight which makes him a middleweight. Simple. "To insinuate Canelo could not drop a pound" ????? Go read the article about Chavez Junior because even he knows 1 pound can make a difference. That's why Canelo fought at catcheweights!

[richardt]

Please name a single other middleweight fighter who can make 154lbs for a fight!

That, right there, shows how ridiculous your stance is.

In less than two weeks, Alvarez has a fight scheduled at 154, after spending the last while fighting at 155.

you played yourself

You are obviously new to the sport, that is glaringly obvious. ANY middleweight on the planet can drain themselves down to 154 but it does NOT make them a junior middleweight, it makes them a badly drained middleweight. There is a REASON WHY Canelo fought at catchweights!!!

[Scipio2009]

You are obviously new to the sport, that is glaringly obvious. ANY middleweight on the planet can drain themselves down to 154 but it does NOT make them a junior middleweight, it makes them a badly drained middleweight. There is a REASON WHY Canelo fought at catchweights!!!

hilarious that you've side-stepped the question.

Is there a single top-level middleweight fighter, today or at any point that you can think of, who could fight at 154lbs and compete?

to help you out, the simple answer is that, outside of 'Maravilla' and maybe Michel Soro, you can't point to one.

[richardt]

hilarious that you've side-stepped the question.

Is there a single top-level middleweight fighter, today or at any point that you can think of, who could fight at 154lbs and compete?

to help you out, the simple answer is that, outside of 'Maravilla' and maybe Michel Soro, you can't point to one.

I already said ANY fighter can make that weight. It DOES NOT mean they would all be perfectly healthy! And the fact is Canelo's LAST FIVE fights were over 154! That makes him a middleweight!

[Tomjas]

hilarious that you've side-stepped the question.

Is there a single top-level middleweight fighter, today or at any point that you can think of, who could fight at 154lbs and compete?

to help you out, the simple answer is that, outside of 'Maravilla' and maybe Michel Soro, you can't point to one.

Check your history as there have been a considerable number including many atgs

What's more, Mundine won versions of the world title at SMW, MW and JMC in that order