Comments Thread For: Arum Explains Why "Whites" Are Abandoning Boxing For UFC

[juggernaut666]

they went to UFC because that azz was getting tapped in boxing

use your brain. the less fighters who participate the less champs you will see.


get out of your feelings bro

Most UFC fighters come from grappling backgrounds NOT boxing so who got their ass tapped in pro boxing as a PRO boxer ?

Use my brain? Well you are the one lost and switched to AGENDA mode ,sorry it won't work with me ive done both sports and there are more fighters today than ever for an REAL pugilist you shouldve known that fihhter rosters have gone up ..... again itds called " POPULATION INCREASE " !

[TripleGFightFan]

I wouldn't say it like that but certainly whites have much less of a "white pride" culture to create a rooting interest in boring fights than many black boxing fans have a "black pride" culture that does create a rooting interest for them to be entertained by boring fights, so long they include black fighters who are winning.

Because whites don't have a "white pride" culture, they essentially have no "home team" to root for in boxing. This means they can only watch boxing like a neutral fan watches the NFL, and like the neutral fan, their entertainment is completely dependent on the game being competitive and aesthetically exciting.

However, because many blacks do believe in a "black pride" culture, they do have a "home team," a rooting interest, in boxing. This means they can watch boxing the way a Lakers fan watches the Lakers: no matter how bad the game is, so long as the Lakers are winning, the Lakers fan is entertained and happy. Or, even if the game is 50-48 in the 4th quarter, with the Lakers trailing, the Lakers fan can still watch on the edge of his seat, filled with suspense, because he has a rooting interest, a personal stake, in the outcome. Meanwhile the neutral fan has fallen asleep.

That's the real difference. Because whites don't have a "tribe pride" racial culture, they can't watch individual sports, like boxing or UFC, with a rooting interest most of the time. This means their entertainment rests completely on the entertainment quality of the product they are watching, as a neutral. Since UFC offers way more competitive match-ups, it's natural the neutral viewer, such as most white combat sports fans, would gravitate more towards UFC. But since many black fans do believe in a "tribe pride" racial culture, they do have natural rooting interests even in individual sports, so long as the matchups involve fighters from their "tribe," so their entertainment is not dependent on the entertainment quality of the product they are watching, it's simply dependent on on their racial rooting interest and seeing their "tribe" win, by any means necessary.

This is why no matter how much Floyd Mayweather ducked and admitted to hand-picking opponents, no matter how much Mayweather or Andre Ward held, measured, ducked below the waist, and otherwise fouled, broke boxing rules, and ruined the entertainment quality of the fights they were in, many black boxing fans have still supported them because from their "tribe pride" rooting interest point of view, they don't care about any of that, they just care that someone from their "tribe" is winning or they can say he's the best.

It's like Portugal at the recent Euros in soccer. Everyone who was neutral criticized their super defensive style of play, how it was terrible soccer to watch, but when they won, the Portuguese people didn't care about any of that. They didn't even care about it while they were watching the games before they ultimately won, because they still felt suspense and entertainment watching these defensive struggles simply because it was their own team, and they had a rooting interest. The same exact concept applies here. Many black boxing fans see every black boxer as part of their "tribe," their home team, so it doesn't really matter what strategies the fighters they see as "theirs" employ, or how entertaining the fights are to watch for a neutral fan, or a boxing purist. All that matters to them is that their "home team" wins, and that they can say their "home team" is the best. Even if that claim is not remotely accurate, they have such a rooting interest that they want to believe it's true, so they convince themselves. It is textbook bias but that's how it works. Just like many Houston Rockets fans tried to argue James Harden was better than Lebron James for the MVP two years ago, and so on. People with a bias will try to convince themselves, because it's what they want to believe.

So that is what is truly going on. "Tribe pride" within much of the black boxing fanbase, and obviously within Mexican boxing fanbases, Puerto Rican, and so forth. The one group that isn't taught to have "tribe pride" by our culture is white people, so they have no built-in rooting interest for individual sports, and as a result their entertainment rests completely on the quality of the matchups, not on any rooting interest. And UFC regularly has the more competitive matchups, so that's where more white fans of combat sports have been forced to gravitate in recent years.

It really is that simple. I have observed this phenomenon for years and everything adds up, everything checks out. I have no doubt at all after paying attention to this for awhile now that this is what is happening, the exact opposite of what Bob Arum believes. But then again his PPV sales are in free-fall, he barely has any good fighters left anymore within his own sport, and now there's a completely separate sport which is also putting his business to shame. It's natural that he's bitter and looking for a scapegoat, and it seems the one socially acceptable scapegoat for everything in 2016 is white people.

So I give credit to Bob Arum for promoting some of history's most important boxing matches, and no boxing fan alive today will ever forget the historic career of Manny Pacquiao which Bob Arum helped facilitate, but this attitude of his scapegoating a mostly neutral segment of boxing fans just because it's easy, or most politically correct these days, because of his own biases or bitterness about the combat sports business, is unfair, and either misguided or misinformed as to what the real situation is, take your pick.

Yeah they do...it's called America and they're losing it...

[therealpugilist]

Most UFC fighters come from grappling backgrounds NOT boxing so who got their ass tapped in pro boxing as a PRO boxer ?

Use my brain? Well you are the one lost and switched to AGENDA mode ,sorry it won't work with me ive done both sports and there are more fighters today than ever for an REAL pugilist you shouldve known that fihhter rosters have gone up ..... again itds called " POPULATION INCREASE " !

blah blah blah...dont get emotional over a simple topic....a message board is where people share their OPINIONS....Stop acting like a lil *****

there is no agenda. be a man!!!

"Grappling" is dominated by whites in America, I wrestled in high school, I know. Of course they go to the UFC genius

with that being said, they have less success in boxing, that's why they try MMA instead of boxing

back in the day all you had was boxing and traditional martial arts where blacks, Asians and latinos dominated, there were great fighters like Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis, Superfoot, but they were few and far between.. MMA gave them an alternative

[JASON SHAW]

Why are pbc fights the highest rated this year

in what way does that make me sound like a promoter? Its you who sounds like your pretending that you work for pbc. I dont care much for the finances usually but hasnt haymon lost a **** load of money, and the sport is losing popularity in usa all the time?

you sound bitter because the top 3 watched fights of the year are pbc and haymon promoted hahahaha.. Why are you worried about haymons money??? He gave us thurman vs porter, leo vs frampton just a couple of months ago...... Which promoter has given us 50/50 fights like that this year????? Dont worry ill wait

[Left2theliver]

Can we trade some of them (by that I mean the casuals) for more of Boxing's Black and Latino fans? I love MMA, I'm a long-time hardcore fan, and I don't mind other hardcore fans... But I could use a little more diversity.

[TripleGFightFan]

Arum told the Truth!!!...

[therealpugilist]

Yeah they do...it's called America and they're losing it...

did this guy really say America doesn't have a
"white pride" culture

I guess he forgot this country was built on white supremacy, off the backs and hands of indigenous, native and black Americans. we still have an active ********* group (kkk), and many U.S. citizens are threatened when other ethnic groups like Mexicans, Africans, etc show any sort of pride or take any sort of stand, white America feels threatened and show their true colors.

Look at the Kapernick situation...the dude never said anything about white people and they lost their mind, burning jerseys, and condemning the man when he only said he just wants the country to practice what they preach for EVERYONE.

Black children in certain cities in certain states are not allowed to wear natural hair styles

other ethnic groups have to conform to European ideals, practices, clothing, hairstyles and he really said that America doesn't have a white pride country.

[Madison Boxing]

you sound bitter because the top 3 watched fights of the year are pbc and haymon promoted hahahaha.. Why are you worried about haymons money??? He gave us thurman vs porter, leo vs frampton just a couple of months ago...... Which promoter has given us 50/50 fights like that this year????? Dont worry ill wait

why would i be bitter, im not a cheerleader for any promoter. Boxing in general has been full of mismatches last couple of years, and PBC is definitely part of that.

[TripleGFightFan]

did this guy really say America doesn't have a
"white pride" culture

I guess he forgot this country was built on white supremacy, off the backs and hands of indigenous, native and black Americans. we still have an active ********* group (kkk), and many U.S. citizens are threatened when other ethnic groups like Mexicans, Africans, etc show any sort of pride or take any sort of stand, white America feels threatened and show their true colors.

Look at the Kapernick situation...the dude never said anything about white people and they lost their mind, burning jerseys, and condemning the man when he only said he just wants the country to practice what they preach for EVERYONE.

Black children in certain cities in certain states are not allowed to wear natural hair styles

other ethnic groups have to conform to European ideals, practices, clothing, hairstyles and he really said that America doesn't have a white pride country.

Exactly...blows my ****kin' mind...they're not proud of their "white culture" because it involves being racists and hateful towards those who aren't white especially to those the most furthest from being white which is black people...if you unscramble America it spells I Am Race...they're not proud of their murderous, deceitful and greedy rapist culture...if I was them I'd probably act like the **** never happened or doesn't happen too...you know gotta protect that "white privilege"...

[JASON SHAW]

Funny how you keep forgetting the great year pbc is having!

why would i be bitter, im not a cheerleader for any promoter. Boxing in general has been full of mismatches last couple of years, and pbc is definitely part of that.

pbc has given us the most 50/50 matches this year and gotten some of the highest ratings for boxing in decades!!! You sound like a golden girl/top prank fan boy who can stand pbc and haymon doing better than expected.... I look forward to you becoming a promoter and saving boxing with your genius boxing mind!