Comments Thread For: Martin Murray: Golovkin Stops Brook in Five, Six Rounds Tops

[Reloaded]

Martin Murray would KO lara without a doubt. he hits harder then the brawler Angulo with 15 losses, and he is definnitely better then vanes martirosyan

A stops B , B stops C , C stops A .

Murray might stop him , might not lay a glove on Lara all night .

[mathed]

6 tops sounds about right. Although in all likelihood, it ends much earlier than that.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

If we all agree they are cowards and scared ****less of ggg, then please explain the reasoning for him and some fans not wanting to him to move up and challenge himself. I mean **** Abel said he is knocking out cruiser weights n light heavies so what's the issue in moving up or down for that matter. Do y'all really wanna see him fight cowards that are scared of him or prove this invisibility Abel speaks of so much. Losing doesn't make u a bum. Ali, Leonard, Hearns, PAC, Tyson, Lennox, all greats and all took fights to prove their worth.

It's not that people don't want him too. But the more interesting fights are at MW, and GGG has had a goal since 2012 and is close. He wants all titles. He wants to break b-hops record.

And it's not like they havnt aimed for SMW. They tried for Froch, supposedly Ward's best win. Froch said no. In fact, he said to just stay away from GGG.

They've had discussions with Zurdo and Degale, but all sides want that to be a bigger fight. Makes sense.

GGG has cornered the MW. The JRMW won't step up with legit purse demands. If they want GGG, they'd take whatever purse HBO and k2 is willing to cover. Lara isn't a draw, he's not worth multiple millions.

So GGG is gonna dominate and break this record pretty much how b-hop set it, only getting the big fights once he got to mid 30's.

But GGG is almost there, no reason to bale now when there isn't any legit big fights open at SMW.

What people don't get is the guys GGG fights are already ten pounds heavier. SMW has guys who'll be 20 pounds. Zurdo rehydrates to 190. Says he trainer.

If you're gonna fight guys 15-20 pounds heavier, you damn well want to get paid.

[Methodical]

It's not that people don't want him too. But the more interesting fights are at MW, and GGG has had a goal since 2012 and is close. He wants all titles. He wants to break b-hops record.

And it's not like they havnt aimed for SMW. They tried for Froch, supposedly Ward's best win. Froch said no. In fact, he said to just stay away from GGG.

They've had discussions with Zurdo and Degale, but all sides want that to be a bigger fight. Makes sense.

GGG has cornered the MW. The JRMW won't step up with legit purse demands. If they want GGG, they'd take whatever purse HBO and k2 is willing to cover. Lara isn't a draw, he's not worth multiple millions.

So GGG is gonna dominate and break this record pretty much how b-hop set it, only getting the big fights once he got to mid 30's.

But GGG is almost there, no reason to bale now when there isn't any legit big fights open at SMW.

What people don't get is the guys GGG fights are already ten pounds heavier. SMW has guys who'll be 20 pounds. Zurdo rehydrates to 190. Says he trainer.

If you're gonna fight guys 15-20 pounds heavier, you damn well want to get paid.

I disagree, what interesting matchup besides canelo is at 160. If we listen to this forum then he walks through canelo right. No one gives him a chance or Jacobs, Saunders, etc.... I would like to see him fight Jr (eubanks) because I do think he is tough and throws combo and hopefully has his pops beard. Other than that no other mw is stepping up. Everyone coming up from jmw isn't ready. What u think?

[Methodical]

I agree on some of your points but the great ones over came that weight advantage and gutted it out. That's what I like to see. When his power doesn't scare or deter that opponent can he go to plan b and adjust. At mw he is the king no doubt.

[Methodical]

It's not that people don't want him too. But the more interesting fights are at MW, and GGG has had a goal since 2012 and is close. He wants all titles. He wants to break b-hops record.

And it's not like they havnt aimed for SMW. They tried for Froch, supposedly Ward's best win. Froch said no. In fact, he said to just stay away from GGG.

They've had discussions with Zurdo and Degale, but all sides want that to be a bigger fight. Makes sense.

GGG has cornered the MW. The JRMW won't step up with legit purse demands. If they want GGG, they'd take whatever purse HBO and k2 is willing to cover. Lara isn't a draw, he's not worth multiple millions.

So GGG is gonna dominate and break this record pretty much how b-hop set it, only getting the big fights once he got to mid 30's.

But GGG is almost there, no reason to bale now when there isn't any legit big fights open at SMW.

What people don't get is the guys GGG fights are already ten pounds heavier. SMW has guys who'll be 20 pounds. Zurdo rehydrates to 190. Says he trainer.

If you're gonna fight guys 15-20 pounds heavier, you damn well want to get paid.

Plus Abel says he knocks out light and cruisers in sparring which is why people wanna see him prove it. Idc bout 154-168 but I do care to see a challenge and honestly there is none at 160 except Eubanks Jr whom I like cause of his ok power but combo punching and I hope he has his pops chin and I'm American, I give A Fck bout nationalities. I like competitive fights. I like knockouts and technicians. I'm critical of ggg cause I believe he is the truth but **** until he challenges himself, we will never know.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

I disagree, what interesting matchup besides canelo is at 160. If we listen to this forum then he walks through canelo right. No one gives him a chance or Jacobs, Saunders, etc.... I would like to see him fight Jr (eubanks) because I do think he is tough and throws combo and hopefully has his pops beard. Other than that no other mw is stepping up. Everyone coming up from jmw isn't ready. What u think?

And everyone thought Hagler was going to destroy Suger Ray, and that didn't happen. Floyd was always supposed to best manny. I think just because GGG is supposed to beat them, doesn't mean he does.

People on the forum mostly have an agenda. They pretend guys like Geale, Rubio, etc were not top MW when GGG fought them, they were. Murray could give anyone a fight, and he has. Abraham and Sergio.

I think Canelo will lose to GGG because he is hitable and lacks MW power. He's only KO'd one guy above 147, and that's Punch drunk Kirkland who had 18 months off and had to lose 55 pounds to make weight after coming out of jail. Canelo doesn't even have 154 power. He can box, but he can't hurt GGG and for that he'll lose.

But Jacobs does. He has skill and power. I think he loses to GGG but beats all other MW including Canelo. I think there is no way Jacobs has less of a chance than Eubanks.

Eubanks has fought one world class fighter, Suanders, and looked average. So either Suanders is better than people think, or Eubanks isn't as good. He's looked good against British level fighters, but that's it.

There is a good reason Eubanks opted out of fighting GGG. He knew he wasn't ready.

Also, GGG is a small MW. Almost All his fights he fights guys bigger than him. Rubio Murray had 10-15 pounds. Wade was huge.

Brook and spence come in over 160 at WW. Spence was 160 his last fight and Brook has been as high as 165. GGG comes in at 170, never higher than 174. Averages 169.

He's a small MW. Doesn't mean he won't fight at SMW. In fact he's tried. Just gas to be for legit money.

Plus Abel says he knocks out light and cruisers in sparring which is why people wanna see him prove it. Idc bout 154-168 but I do care to see a challenge and honestly there is none at 160 except Eubanks Jr whom I like cause of his ok power but combo punching and I hope he has his pops chin and I'm American, I give A Fck bout nationalities. I like competitive fights. I like knockouts and technicians. I'm critical of ggg cause I believe he is the truth but **** until he challenges himself, we will never know.

I don't agree, GGG tried to go at Froch, Chevez when he was still winning, and in 2014 he wanted Ward. Ward wasn't injured, and he turned HBO/k2 down flat out. He then waited until GGG cornered two unification fights, and if Lee wouldn't of lost against Suanders it would have been all three. Ward knew GGG wasn't about to not do what he set out to do in 2012.

Ward in 2015 wasn't serious. He wanted GGG to give him 50/50 over a year and a half in advance. He knew GGG was lining up unification fights. In other words, Ward knew he'd be turned down. Funny thing is, k2 to lad Ward the beg of 2017 they could talk. Ward wanted end of 2016. Why didn't he wait another five months? I think it's because he knew by end of 2016 GGG was going to be the clear A-side and it'd be 70/30 purse. It's why he tried to lock down the 50/50 so early. He wasn't down for that.

That goes against him not wanting to challenge himself. But at 34 he has to seek out the most money he can.

Also, thats not what Sanchez said, he said GGG hurts them. So has many others. But there's a difference when it comes to sparring. GGG does have power that will go up to SMW.

But that doesn't mean there are interesting rights worth taking. Who outside of Hardcores know Degale?

Zurdo is young, unknown, and frankly huge. He comes in around 190. GGG will fight him, but fights like that need to be big. Zurdo needs more establishing. The guy can drain down to SMW. But he fights as the size of a LHW. He is heavier than Kovelev in the ring.

These fights will happen, but likely when someone establishes themselves as the top SMW.

[BaDaBingVIP2]

If Kell Brook box at angles and can withstand Golovkin punching power and deliver hard blows to get Golovkin respect maybe it goes 12. I think Golovkin stops Brook in 8

like the pics.i was always a terris norris fan.

[sugar ray lenrd]

If we all agree they are cowards and scared ****less of ggg, then please explain the reasoning for him and some fans not wanting to him to move up and challenge himself. I mean **** Abel said he is knocking out cruiser weights n light heavies so what's the issue in moving up or down for that matter. Do y'all really wanna see him fight cowards that are scared of him or prove this invisibility Abel speaks of so much. Losing doesn't make u a bum. Ali, Leonard, Hearns, PAC, Tyson, Lennox, all greats and all took fights to prove their worth.

Explain?...Dude He is a Middle wgt. There are still good fights to be made that can still allow him to cash in like Jacobs, Suanders, Eubanks & if Canelo grows some balls, that would be crazy money. So for the moment there is NO reason to move up. He is the Middle wgt KING! Just like Hagler was, ain't nothing wrong with that.