Comments Thread For: Peralta: I Was a Cab Driver, Now I Beat Robert Guerrero!

[Robbie Barrett]

This just shows how PBC operates. They don't just find bums for their A-sides to fight, they search out the entire top 200 on boxrec in the division for the guy with a respectable W-L record against weak opposition, with no power, who is as out of shape or uncommitted to boxing as possible. They could have picked any of the random guys at 147 with 25-2 or 25-3 records in other countries and low KO percentages, but they picked the guy who was almost retired, and had a second job.

That is how they operate. It's all fake, it's an illusion. They want to keep propping up their guys with name recognition by setting up these fake "tests" against 25-2 fighters, without telling the fans that they only fought no names in a foreign country, and that they're on the verge of retirement. That is how they operate, which is ridiculous because if they stopped protecting all these overrated fighters like Guerrero, and actually let their best guys shine instead of worrying about protecting "names" like Guerrero, that would allow the best guys to actually become names themselves, and then they wouldn't have to pull this illusory bull****.

But, that is how they operate. Anyone who supports PBC should read this article and understand what it means. They didn't just search out an unproven opponent, they literally picked the one with the least power, and who was about to retire, on purpose, and that is their business model. And Guerrero still lost...

That's how every promoter operates and always has, are you new to boxing?

[Boxing Logic]

And cong**** to Peralta, I don't begrudge him getting a payday after this, but from a competitive standpoint, if anyone thinks this win means he won't get shutout in a complete snoozefest against Spence, Thurman, Porter, even Garcia, they are probably deluding themselves. Anything is possible but I didn't see enough speed or power tonight for him to trouble anyone in the top 10 of the division.

[Boxing Logic]

That's how every promoter operates and always has, are you new to boxing?

Maybe that's how every promoter operates with a top prospect when they are young and unproven. When they are protecting someone. But why is Robert Guerrero being protected? How is a promotion supposed to put forth a good product when even their damn gatekeepers are protected?

Going to such great lengths to protect Robert Guerrero, at the expense of the product you are giving the fans, is ridiculous. Since when did promoters protect gatekeepers this much? With a gatekeeper in a comeback fight, you're supposed to throw them in with another top 20 type guy with power and let them sink or swim. If they prove they can still beat those guys, then they move forward. If not, tell them to retire and move onto the next guy.

But going to such lengths, finding some guy from Argentina with no power who was about to retire, in order to protect Robert Guerrero? That is beyond what promoters normally do. That is like a ****ing hoarder. Al Haymon is a hoarder. He can't let go. Guerrero could lose his next 10 fights, and Haymon would be like, "we gotta protect this man, he could be still be marketable with a win, he was in with Floyd. Nah nah, don't give the date to that talented exciting young fighter coming out of Philly. He doesn't have a name. The Ghost has a name. We have to protect this man. We have to keep every single name in my stable relevant. We can't ever let go of any of them and move forward. Gotta catch em all. Gotta keep em all."

Al Haymon is a ****ing hoarder period. I would understand searching out a guy like this to make Spence look good, a hot prospect, although if Spence is so good, why is that even necessary? Put him in with the best already. But, to go to these lengths to prop up Robert Guerrero? That's a joke. Either Guerrero is good enough to fight the best, or he's not. If he's not, then stop putting him on TV. Or at least tell him to go back down to 135 where his punches could actually be effective. Make Mikey Garcia against Guerrero at 135 or something. Two strong guys. But finding cab drivers who are almost retired and have no power is ridiculous, especially if you're trying to grow the sport, which clearly PBC never was.

[Robbie Barrett]

Maybe that's how every promoter operates with a top prospect when they are young and unproven. But going to such great lengths to protect Robert Guerrero, at the expense of the product you are giving the fans? That is ridiculous. Guerrero is a gatekeeper. Since when did promoters protect gatekeepers this much? With a gatekeeper in a comeback fight, you're supposed to throw them in with another top 20 type guy with power and let them sink or swim. If they prove they can still beat those guys, then they move forward. If not, tell them to retire and move onto the next guy.

But going to such lengths, finding some guy from Argentina with no power who was about to retire, in order to protect Robert Guerrero? That is beyond what promoters normally do. That is like a ****ing hoarder. Al Haymon is a hoarder. He can't let go. Guerrero could lose his next 10 fights, and Haymon would be like, "we gotta protect this man, he could be still be marketable with a win, he was in with Floyd. Nah nah, don't give the date to that talented exciting young fighter coming out of Philly. He doesn't have a name. The Ghost has a name. We have to protect this man. We have to keep every single name in my stable relevant. We can't ever let go of any of them and move forward. Gotta catch em all. Gotta keep em all."

Al Haymon is a ****ing hoarder period. I would understand searching out a guy like this to make Spence look good, a hot prospect, although if Spence is so good, why is that even necessary? Put him in with the best already. But, to go to these lengths to prop up Robert Guerrero? That's a joke. Either Guerrero is good enough to fight the best, or he's not. If he's not, then stop putting him on TV. Or at least tell him to go back down to 135 where his punches could actually be effective. Make Mikey Garcia against Guerrero at 135 or something. Two strong guys. But finding cab drivers who are almost retired and have no power is ridiculous, especially if you're trying to grow the sport, which clearly PBC never was.

They obviously wanted to try and give him a few wins before throwing him in with someone else. It wasn't about protecting Guerrero it was about building him back up to look like a more credible opponent when they decide to throw him in with one of their up and comers.

[Boxing Logic]

They obviously wanted to try and give him a few wins before throwing him in with someone else. It wasn't about protecting Guerrero it was about building him back up to look like a more credible opponent when they decide to throw him in with one of their up and comers.

I get that but they already did that twice, once with Thurman, and once with Garcia. Enough already. It's a joke. Put him in there with a Berto level guy again, and see if he can even still beat a top 30 guy. Don't put him in with the 150th ranked, pillow punching cab driver from Argentina. What if he had won? What would that have proven?

This is my point. Haymon keeps trying to milk and milk these same damn guys who have no hope of beating anybody. Name one top welterweight Guerrero beat? He didn't even beat one before losing every round to Keith Thurman and getting beaten up. So move on! He already showed his level at this weight class, and that level is losing every round to the top guys. So move on. Stop trying to milk a "contender" with limited speed and no power at the weight class, who is incapable of beating any of the top guys except maybe Garcia, because Garcia is overrated too.

Instead of milking the same guy over and over again to be an opponent, if Haymon actually put Guerrero in with a Berto level guy, maybe that Berto level guy would really improve, and kick his ass, and knock him out. Then you'd actually have another interesting opponent for Thurman or whoever. The guy that beat Guerrero. Instead with fights like these, if Guerrero won, he's still not a good opponent. And if the other guy wins, which he did, he's such a feather fisted fighter that he's not an interesting opponent for the top guys, either. So it's a lose/lose setup from the fans perspective. But that is Al Haymon's business model in a nutshell so why am I surprised? I understand he set this up to make Guerrero an opponent for Spence or Porter or someone, but that's the whole point, none of us want to see Guerrero fight Spence or Porter! Not until Guerrero shows he has at least a 30% chance of beating them, which this fight could never have proven either way. So the whole thing is flawed.

[Madison Boxing]

Maybe that's how every promoter operates with a top prospect when they are young and unproven. When they are protecting someone. But why is Robert Guerrero being protected? How is a promotion supposed to put forth a good product when even their damn gatekeepers are protected?

Going to such great lengths to protect Robert Guerrero, at the expense of the product you are giving the fans, is ridiculous. Since when did promoters protect gatekeepers this much? With a gatekeeper in a comeback fight, you're supposed to throw them in with another top 20 type guy with power and let them sink or swim. If they prove they can still beat those guys, then they move forward. If not, tell them to retire and move onto the next guy.

But going to such lengths, finding some guy from Argentina with no power who was about to retire, in order to protect Robert Guerrero? That is beyond what promoters normally do. That is like a ****ing hoarder. Al Haymon is a hoarder. He can't let go. Guerrero could lose his next 10 fights, and Haymon would be like, "we gotta protect this man, he could be still be marketable with a win, he was in with Floyd. Nah nah, don't give the date to that talented exciting young fighter coming out of Philly. He doesn't have a name. The Ghost has a name. We have to protect this man. We have to keep every single name in my stable relevant. We can't ever let go of any of them and move forward. Gotta catch em all. Gotta keep em all."

Al Haymon is a ****ing hoarder period. I would understand searching out a guy like this to make Spence look good, a hot prospect, although if Spence is so good, why is that even necessary? Put him in with the best already. But, to go to these lengths to prop up Robert Guerrero? That's a joke. Either Guerrero is good enough to fight the best, or he's not. If he's not, then stop putting him on TV. Or at least tell him to go back down to 135 where his punches could actually be effective. Make Mikey Garcia against Guerrero at 135 or something. Two strong guys. But finding cab drivers who are almost retired and have no power is ridiculous, especially if you're trying to grow the sport, which clearly PBC never was.

great post, repped.

[Madison Boxing]

dont be shocked if garcia fights peralta next

[Jubei]

Damn and just when Al wanted to feed Guerrero to Spence.

[Jubei]

One of Mayweather's recent wins.

Got beat up by a literal cab driver. A retired guy who got the fight offered by Haymon because he seemed shot and beatable.

[rrayvez]

One of Mayweather's recent wins.

Got beat up by a literal cab driver. A retired guy who got the fight offered by Haymon because he seemed shot and beatable.

you're reaching. That fight was over 3 yrs ago. In boxing that's not "recent"