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  • M Bison
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    #11
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    If Cuadras wins will he be #1 P4P?
    If you have Roman as your number 1 then yeah I guess there is an argument for that plus Cuadras has a good record himself.

    I'm hoping for a Roman win this would be a huge victory for him something that puts him on track to competing with Frampton for FOTY.

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      #12
      Cuadras has tons of charisma and personality . As oppose to Gonzalez who is strictly business so HBO gotta use Cuadras character to hype the fight . In reality there's alot of Respect between the two . Yesterday was Cuadras BDay n HBO was trying to bait him to say some way put sh't in the interview but the guys a pro .
      Feliz Crumple Anos Campion !!!

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        #13
        I can't wait for this fight. Carlos Cuadras is going to give Roman Gonzalez a boxing lesson and a good beating. The Prince gots this.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          If Cuadras wins will he be #1 P4P?
          P4P is not a tournament.

          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          Gonzalez has been living off that Estrada win since 2012 and hasn't really fought anyone since. If Cuadras wins he should be able to live off this win and propel himself to #1 p4p without doing much after. Estrada has better wins since losing to Gonzalez
          False: McWilliams should of been IBF champion after Ruerong and Viloria is currently top #5. in his division and Sosa was around 7 at flyweight -- he has consistently fought top 10 competition at his weight...No other champion in the sport of boxing has fought top ten back to back without taking a break or tuneup. Not Kovalevs, not Ward...not Crawford....but being the little man he is subjected to greater scrutiny you would think it should be the other way around.....but this is the discrimination RG faces.

          Originally posted by Johnny_Roa
          You're correct, and to be fair i think it's a joke that Gonzalez is p4p number 1
          Nobody in the sport has accomplished more in this sport and even more ignorant to say this when hes going for his forth crown vs. the #1. @ 115 a legit belt not some vacated title...without a tuneup at this weight.

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            #15
            Originally posted by 1hourRun
            False: McWilliams should of been IBF champion after Ruerong and Viloria is currently top #5. in his division and Sosa was around 7 at flyweight -- he has consistently fought top 10 competition at his weight...No other champion in the sport of boxing has fought top ten back to back without taking a break or tuneup. Not Kovalevs, not Ward...not Crawford....but being the little man he is subjected to greater scrutiny you would think it should be the other way around.....but this is the discrimination RG faces.=
            It's a seven lb difference between 108 and 115. That's three different weight classes. They need to consolidate. The competition is horrible down there. Eliminate a weight class and consolidate. You got these guys 4 and 3 lbs away from each other in different weight classes. That's ridiculous. I can't take you serious as a multi division champ when you're only moving 3 lbs

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              #16
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              It's a seven lb difference between 108 and 115. That's three different weight classes. They need to consolidate. The competition is horrible down there. Eliminate a weight class and consolidate. You got these guys 4 and 3 lbs away from each other in different weight classes. That's ridiculous. I can't take you serious as a multi division champ when you're only moving 3 lbs
              Super Lightweight/Jr. Welterweight (140 lbs) - 5 LBS.

              Lightweight (135 lbs) - 5 LBS.

              Super Featherweight/Jr. Lightweight (130 lbs) - 4 LBS.

              Featherweight (126 lbs) - 4 LBS.

              Super Bantamweight/Jr. Featherweight(122 lbs)- 4 LBS.

              Bantamweight (118 lbs)- 3 LBS.

              Super Flyweight/Jr. Bantamweight (115 lbs) 3 LBS.

              Flyweight (112 lbs) - 3 LBS.

              Junior Flyweight/Light Flyweight (108 lbs) - 3 LBS.

              Minimumweight/Mini-Flyweight (105 lbs)

              Look at the difference in weight from 140 below -- its an average of 3.7 LBS...so using your logic every weight class below 147 is illegitimate ; its funny that everybody seem to praise other weight classes for doing the same thing but the flyweights cant get any respect! example: Carl Frampton just moved up 4 pounds and nobody said nothing bad about that...yet these 'Little' men have to fight tougher competition and are at greater risk by moving up given that there frame can not sustain the impact of force per LBS ( which is the reason for these weight to protect the fighters) can not do nothing right in the eyes of critics. It really comes down to ignorance : people resort to degrading the weight because they simply dont follow it or criticize the weight which I just cleared proved how hypocritical that is.

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              • Motorcity Cobra
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                #17
                Originally posted by 1hourRun
                Super Lightweight/Jr. Welterweight (140 lbs) - 5 LBS.

                Lightweight (135 lbs) - 5 LBS.

                Super Featherweight/Jr. Lightweight (130 lbs) - 4 LBS.

                Featherweight (126 lbs) - 4 LBS.

                Super Bantamweight/Jr. Featherweight(122 lbs)- 4 LBS.

                Bantamweight (118 lbs)- 3 LBS.

                Super Flyweight/Jr. Bantamweight (115 lbs) 3 LBS.

                Flyweight (112 lbs) - 3 LBS.

                Junior Flyweight/Light Flyweight (108 lbs) - 3 LBS.

                Minimumweight/Mini-Flyweight (105 lbs)

                Look at the difference in weight from 140 below -- its an average of 3.7 LBS...so using your logic every weight class below 147 is illegitimate ; its funny that everybody seem to praise other weight classes for doing the same thing but the flyweights cant get any respect! example: Carl Frampton just moved up 4 pounds and nobody said nothing bad about that...yet these 'Little' men have to fight tougher competition and are at greater risk by moving up given that there frame can not sustain the impact of force per LBS ( which is the reason for these weight to protect the fighters) can not do nothing right in the eyes of critics. It really comes down to ignorance : people resort to degrading the weight because they simply dont follow it or criticize the weight which I just cleared proved how hypocritical that is.
                You're proving my point. All of those weight classes need to be consolidated from 140 down.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  You're proving my point. All of those weight classes need to be consolidated from 140 down.
                  Then you have to be consistent and declare all of these weight classes are illegitimate and that the science and research (to protect the fighters) that limit weight classes is false. Keep in mind that 112 is one of the original weight classes in history with over 100 years of history and that RG currently holds the title with the longest unbroken lineage ( WBC Flyweight title ) in the history of the sport...thats a sad way of thinking bro...I mean there would be maybe only 8 ( I think ) divisions in the sport using the old model.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by 1hourRun
                    Then you have to be consistent and declare all of these weight classes are illegitimate and that the science and research (to protect the fighters) that limit weight classes is false. Keep in mind that 112 is one of the original weight classes in history with over 100 years of history and that RG currently holds the title with the longest unbroken lineage ( WBC Flyweight title ) in the history of the sport...thats a sad way of thinking bro...I mean there would be maybe only 8 ( I think ) divisions in the sport using the old model.
                    Those extra weight classes were created for the sanctioning organizations to create more belts to get more money. There is no science behind it. If there was science behind it the amateur ranks would have the same weight classes because they protect the fighters more than the pros.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                      Those extra weight classes were created for the sanctioning organizations to create more belts to get more money. There is no science behind it. If there was science behind it the amateur ranks would have the same weight classes because they protect the fighters more than the pros.
                      No science behind it? are you kidding me!!! It doesn't take a genius to see that if you put a welter vs. a lightheavy thats really dangerous!

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