Would boxing be safer if they used smaller, finger-less UFC sized gloves? 4 oz

[Eff Pandas]

I think so. I don't think people understand that getting hit in the head is some f#cked up **** even when you don't get KTFO. Sparring with giant gloves & headgear is slooshing a mfers brain all around & not doing anything good for the fighter.

So I think its definitely much better to get your lights turned out all at once & be done for the night then to get your lights turned out & giving time for them to turn back on & then getting hit in the head some more or get your lights turned out again.

That said there are always going to be guys who get severe damage in any sport where you get hit in the head as there seems to be some guys more likely to develop severe injuries based on their bodies & genes & all sorta things we don't have much control over people way smarter then I theorize.

Mainly why I'd be pro this change in boxing is cuz I think it'd make fights much more exciting and lead to more KO's which I believe would make boxing more popular. More KO's also means there is less decision f#ckery going on which is probably the 2nd biggest reason many sports fans don't care about boxing cuz boxing feels very WWEish, sketchy or just corrupt once a decision gets announced far too often.

[Eff Pandas]

goodridge was also a kickboxer. seems very self aware, but there's obviously a ton of damage there.

Goodridge was everything. He was on the Canada national boxing team for some period of time back in the day too (& was a top arm wrestler as well).

[STREET CLEANER]

Even though UFC/MMA seems like the more brutal and dangerous sport, it's the boxers who end up with a lifetime of brain damage, impaired speech, and overall suffering after retirement. Boxing gloves have too much padding, therefore leading to more brain rattling without actually putting your opponent down. A hard, flush punch that might have knocked someone down or out with smaller UFC gloves (4 oz) won't have the same effect with bigger boxing gloves (8+ oz). Instead, you're just rattling their brain without hurting them over the course of 12 rounds. This is why more boxers die in the ring compared to UFC. Retired boxers live a life of major complications due to this very reason.

It's the same reason more and more studies are being conducted on the alleged safety that headgear provides. Sure, they can stop from cuts and bruises but it won't stop your brain from rattling by getting hit.

Yea go lighter and just break up the fighters face faster so their careers last like for 5 years

[Johnwoo8686]

I think the damage would be worst than it already is in boxing. Look at what Louis Resto was able to do to Billy Collins when he simply removed some padding from his gloves. Billy Collins was not able to fight ever again. So bringing in four once gloves into boxing where the men fight for 12 rounds and ONLY punch each other would lead to more injuries most likely. In MMA there is grappling which gives fighters a bit of a break from the physical trauma of getting hit. In boxing physical trauma is the only way you can win so using smaller gloves would be quite dangerous.

[New England]

I think the damage would be worst than it already is in boxing. Look at what Louis Resto was able to do to Billy Collins when he simply removed some padding from his gloves. Billy Collins was not able to fight ever again. So bringing in four once gloves into boxing where the men fight for 12 rounds and ONLY punch each other would lead to more injuries most likely. In MMA there is grappling which gives fighters a bit of a break from the physical trauma of getting hit. In boxing physical trauma is the only way you can win so using smaller gloves would be quite dangerous.

resto's wraps were also dipped in plaster. lewis removed around an once of padding from the glove, but it was all from the knuckle area. if you watch the fight and the hand shake after with collins sr you can see them "crease" where the padding was removed.

[Tom Cruise]

I think the damage would be worst than it already is in boxing. Look at what Louis Resto was able to do to Billy Collins when he simply removed some padding from his gloves. Billy Collins was not able to fight ever again. So bringing in four once gloves into boxing where the men fight for 12 rounds and ONLY punch each other would lead to more injuries most likely. In MMA there is grappling which gives fighters a bit of a break from the physical trauma of getting hit. In boxing physical trauma is the only way you can win so using smaller gloves would be quite dangerous.

Yep. Fights being stopped for broken bones (eye sockets, jaws etc) and cuts would be much more common than they are now.

Hand injuries too.

[New England]

Yep. Fights being stopped for broken bones (eye sockets, jaws etc) and cuts would be much more common than they are now.

Hand injuries too.

not to mention some pretty serious injuries to the eyes from having gloves without thumbs or fingers. that can potentially end a career.

i'm always surprised that guys dont get poked in the eye more often in the UFC and other MMA orgs.

[Shrap]

How is that possible if UFC has less injuries in those categories when they are allowed to kick, knee, elbow and punch?

You aren't being objective.

Brain damage comes from sustained beatings that don't knock you out. Your brain is rattling inside of your head and that's what happens in boxing. In UFC, if you get hit with a good shot you're going down. Getting knocked out cold isn't as bad as a sustained beating, which can cause blood clots and brain bleeding.

This happened 2 months ago in the UFC:


A caved in skull from a single fight and he has no intent to retire.

I'm amazed someone on a boxing forum is trying to make an argument that MMA is the safer sport.

[New England]

This happened 2 months ago in the UFC:


A caved in skull from a single fight and he has no intent to retire.

I'm amazed someone on a boxing forum is trying to make an argument that MMA is the safer sport.

death rates, for one. there are boxing deaths every year. MMA deaths do happen, but they're much less common from the data that's been gathered.

most of the boxing deaths come from long fights. long fights [longer than half an hour] don't exist in teh UFC or other MMA orgs that i know of. heck, they're mostly fighting 3 rounders.


while i do agree that a kick, knee, slam, etc is more head trauma that any boxer will ecieve in a single blow, it's actually pretty well documented that boxers typically get brain damage from the sustained beatings that last several rounds. in boxing you may go down, clear your head for 10 seconds, and try and hold on and survive. in MMA you mayt very well get finished in a flash if you get dropped and hurt by a punch, kick, etc. you don't get broken up from a clinch. the fights can be stopped for reasons other than head trauma or body shots [submissions being the big one that finish fights and don't often contribute to head trauma, though being choked while you have a concussion is probably awful for you.]

[BoxingFan85]

Ofcourse studies & experiments have proven that 12oz or 4oz gloves it doesn't change the ppi on impact.. Yes you might have less cuts but the point still remains that your head takes a pounding & it may cause clots by continuous jarring..

But the fact boxing lasts for 12 rounds means any amount of added protection on the gloves helps soften the impact on the athlete's knuckles/fingers..

I am a subscriber of this channel & they usually did these experiments for Discovery before..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCuYluBB1p0