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  • Eff Pandas
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    #61
    Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
    Fat Dan would never post on Ortiz purse. If he was making 300k he wouldn't leave.
    Fat Dan posts purses all the time. If he's posted or not posted Ortiz's I got no f#cking clue, but I don't see why he wouldn't.

    And honestly with some of these Cuban guys nutty logic it wouldn't shock me if Ortiz was making good money & left GBP. Their boxing as a business learning curve seems to be off as a nationality maybe because they have never dealt with the concept of even having a pro career til later in their lives for the most part. Either way I think Ortiz has more & better options & paydays with GBP than with Dade. If Dade has some other plan with another big name promoter we will see & if that is the case maybe this will be a good to great move, but if this is similar to Rigo's situation it'll end up being as successful as Rigo's last few years I predict.

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    • CaneloMaidana
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      #62
      Originally posted by bigdunny1
      All the top heavyweights are ducking Ortiz. His best shot at getting one in the ring is by his mandatory shot against Fury/Klitch who are fighting on HBO. So if he backs out and vacates his spot against that winner why on earth would Joshua who is young take the risk and fight Ortiz? If Joshua is going to step up and fight someone really good on Showtime it would be Wilder who he can make more money fighting. The top heavyweight have no incentive to fight Ortiz they will wait till he gets old or until some belt organization forces them too.
      Joshua knocks out Ortiz and it's a big Showtime fight, no one wants Fury vs Joshua in USA.

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      • CaneloMaidana
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        #63
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Fat Dan posts purses all the time. If he's posted or not posted Ortiz's I got no f#cking clue, but I don't see why he wouldn't.

        And honestly with some of these Cuban guys nutty logic it wouldn't shock me if Ortiz was making good money & left GBP. Their boxing as a business learning curve seems to be off as a nationality maybe because they have never dealt with the concept of even having a pro career til later in their lives for the most part. Either way I think Ortiz has more & better options & paydays with GBP than with Dade. If Dade has some other plan with another big name promoter we will see & if that is the case maybe this will be a good to great move, but if this is similar to Rigo's situation it'll end up being as successful as Rigo's last few years I predict.
        Go look at Rafael's page. No mention that Spence had most watched fight in 19 years, he's a puppet. He won't post that tiny purse.

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        • CaneloMaidana
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          #64
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          Fat Dan posts purses all the time. If he's posted or not posted Ortiz's I got no f#cking clue, but I don't see why he wouldn't.

          And honestly with some of these Cuban guys nutty logic it wouldn't shock me if Ortiz was making good money & left GBP. Their boxing as a business learning curve seems to be off as a nationality maybe because they have never dealt with the concept of even having a pro career til later in their lives for the most part. Either way I think Ortiz has more & better options & paydays with GBP than with Dade. If Dade has some other plan with another big name promoter we will see & if that is the case maybe this will be a good to great move, but if this is similar to Rigo's situation it'll end up being as successful as Rigo's last few years I predict.
          Feel free to ask Miller on social media, he seen the contract.

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          • Eff Pandas
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            #65
            Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
            Nobody wants bum Lemiuex.
            LOL thats nuts. Most promoters don't even have a guy in the top 10 to randomly step on a title shot ffs.

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            • bigdunny1
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              #66
              Originally posted by Shadoww702
              Yes I do. The WBA Champion get a 60/40 split. Back in early August before the split the bid was a minimum of $600K.

              600*60% = A MINIMUM of $360K for Ortiz.

              But then again you say Khan/Canelo only did 250K PPV buys lol....
              exactly he was going to MAKE more money fighting on the Canelo undercard both promoters agreed to terms TO AVOID a purse bid then Ortiz joke promoters Dade pulled the plug and it went to purse bid where nobody bid on ortiz's behalf so Russian promoter bid lowest amount. Now he will get paid less money and have to go fight in Russia instead of the US. While the russian will be paid MORE money by his own promoters.

              Same thing happened with Lemieux and Ndam. Ndam was offered MORE money got upset with his promoter and backed out the deal worth 300k. So it went to purse bid his promoter knowing he would not air the fight refused to bid and Golden Boy bid the lowest possible amount. 102k which Ndamn split. Meanwhile Lemieux obviously was paid by his own promoters far more then the purse bid amount, while Ndam not being paid by his promoters got exactly what the purse bid amount said and not a dime more. Anyone saying Ortiz turned down 50k to fight on Canelo undercard is just a F ing idiot.

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              • CaneloMaidana
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                #67
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                LOL thats nuts. Most promoters don't even have a guy in the top 10 to randomly step on a title shot ffs.
                You guys love to hype the guy who lost to Rubio and Alcine. Fernando Guerrero is one of his best wins.

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                • CaneloMaidana
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  exactly he was going to MAKE more money fighting on the Canelo undercard both promoters agreed to terms TO AVOID a purse bid then Ortiz joke promoters Dade pulled the plug and it went to purse bid where nobody bid on ortiz's behalf so Russian promoter bid lowest amount. Now he will get paid less money and have to go fight in Russia instead of the US. While the russian will be paid MORE money by his own promoters.

                  Same thing happened with Lemieux and Ndam. Ndam was offered MORE money got upset with his promoter and backed out the deal worth 300k. So it went to purse bid his promoter knowing he would not air the fight refused to bid and Golden Boy bid the lowest possible amount. 102k which Ndamn split. Meanwhile Lemieux obviously was paid by his own promoters far more then the purse bid amount, while Ndam not being paid by his promoters got exactly what the purse bid amount said and not a dime more. Anyone saying Ortiz turned down 50k to fight on Canelo undercard is just a F ing idiot.
                  Ortiz was going to make over 360k? You guys just make up numbers.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
                    You guys love to hype the guy who lost to Rubio and Alcine. Fernando Guerrero is one of his best wins.
                    Thats the thing you're confused about. I'm not hyping David, I'm saying most promoters don't even have a top ten guy on their roster. If you're a promoter & you don't got a top ten guy David is like a steak to a starving person in some cartoon.

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                    • Shadoww702
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
                      Ortiz was going to make over 360k? You guys just make up numbers.
                      Umm... I said MIniMUM $360k. WBA champion get 60/40 split.

                      Oscar used to pay $100K for BEST KO of the Night at major cards and $10K on some minor ones!!!

                      But you think he's only paying Ortiz $25K???

                      Show some LINKS??? Now some BS Mac Miller sht. Who told you a friend of a friend knows.

                      U saw link to contract then POST it

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