Originally posted by Blue Heffner
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Why are the best fights in boxing not happening?
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Originally posted by Chollo Vista View PostNo, just no.
Do you really agree with the state of boxing right now? Do you agree with the excuses you just laid out?
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostThis has always been the state of boxing. Boxing, unlike MMA, is a sport not a promotion. If all of these fighters were with one promotion we'd see the fights happen. For an idea of how it would happen just look at Top Rank. All they do is have in-house fights. UFC is just like Top Rank, all in-house fights. MMA is more fractured than boxing. When was the last time UFC worked with another MMA promoter?
Regarding the Cold War, that is no more.
HBO will work with Haymon. Arum will work with Haymon. Showtime will work with HBO.
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Everyone is afraid to take a loss
If you lose in ufc, you get bumped down, but are still able to land decent fights, whereas boxing you basically get thrown in the trash heap ie Berto, bute, dawson, etc
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Originally posted by Chollo Vista View PostHaymon signed a whole slew of fighters to his brand under one umbrella. Even then, we're still having the same issues. Haymon tried to set a similar model to that of UFC and still the right fights aren't happening.
Regarding the Cold War, that is no more.
HBO will work with Haymon. Arum will work with Haymon. Showtime will work with HBO.
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostEveryone is afraid to take a loss
If you lose in ufc, you get bumped down, but are still able to land decent fights, whereas boxing you basically get thrown in the trash heap ie Berto, bute, dawson, etc
Too many times fighters have always come back and got a chance to reclaim glory.
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"Best fights" usually implies that the result is not a foregone conclusion, therefore the fight carries significant "risk" for each fighter (and accordingly, their promoter). Risk can jeopardize the financial stability and earning power of each fighter - and because money rules this sport, the vast majority of people in the industry a risk adverse.
Chances of killing the cash cow = no fight.
Fans will pay for the best fight they can possibly see - it makes no difference if that best fight is still garbage compared to the potential.
Hell, the biggest fight in history was a borefest that every man and their dog could have predicted. It still made bank.
This is why we have alphabet soup title holders - Joshua, Wilder etc, doing absolutely nothing to put themselves in a position to have to earn a win, because they simply don't need to.
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I agree with TS 100%. Too any of these casuals on here, yes most of you guys are casuals, would rather wait til 2035 for their favorite fighters to get into an evenly the matched fight just to make sure they get the most bank. These fans are the same as teeny bop fans of boy bands.
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