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  • TexasCowBoy
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    #21
    Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
    Granted in another era, GGG would've had a tough time with prime Hagler, Monzon, BHop, Cerdan, Ketchel, or even the absolute prime Taylor with that lightning fast and accurate jab he used to have. GGG would have just been an 'also ran' to any of those. But he fights who's available now, and wins. He isn't the best, and I'd predict within 2-3 years he loses... probably at SMW. And I also agree he needs to lose the assumption he has to get all the MW belts before moving up. Whether that's ducking or just a bad decision in general, is anyone's guess. At his age though, he really has to move to SMW soon, maybe even LHW.
    Great you mentioned Marvelous Marvin Hagler......one of the best Middleweights of all time and He never left MiddleWeight so no GGG does not need to leave Middleweight....as long as everyone knows who the UNDISPUTED and most avoided Middleweight is who cares what the jealous boxing fans think.....I like to see the jealous people toil in the wind.

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    • Mate_Parlov
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      #22
      Originally posted by Metho_4u
      Good post, he'll never move to lhw though...he'll get Chavez'd
      Nor he shouldn't. You should start with Wikipedia to learn something about boxing, weight classes etc. That way you wouldn't sound clueless.

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        #23
        Originally posted by TexasCowBoy
        Great you mentioned Marvelous Marvin Hagler......one of the best Middleweights of all time and He never left MiddleWeight so no GGG does not need to leave Middleweight....as long as everyone knows who the UNDISPUTED and most avoided Middleweight is who cares what the jealous boxing fans think.....I like to see the jealous people toil in the wind.
        Well, his kind of people never believe in logic and education.
        Since Floyd fought in 5 different classes, he ACTUALLY believes everyone has to switch 5 in order to achieve greatness. So everyone who starts as MW MUST end up fighting HW.

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        • Metho_4u
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          #24
          Originally posted by Mate_Parlov
          Nor he shouldn't. You should start with Wikipedia to learn something about boxing, weight classes etc. That way you wouldn't sound clueless.
          Oh stfu alt.

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          • Metho_4u
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            #25
            Originally posted by Mate_Parlov
            Well, his kind of people never believe in logic and education.
            Since Floyd fought in 5 different classes, he ACTUALLY believes everyone has to switch 5 in order to achieve greatness. So everyone who starts as MW MUST end up fighting HW.
            But no one there will probably fight him doe!

            No, you don't have to move up 5 weight classes, just have to fight some real threats, GayHumpKin is obviously exploiting a weak division doe. ******. It's obvious he doesn't want to go to lhw, since he doesn't even want to go to SMW.

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            • ultravividscene
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              #26
              Originally posted by Metho_4u
              But no one there will probably fight him doe!

              No, you don't have to move up 5 weight classes, just have to fight some real threats, GayHumpKin is obviously exploiting a weak division doe. ******. It's obvious he doesn't want to go to lhw, since he doesn't even want to go to SMW.
              Why is it some people always blame the division when someone fighting in it is far better than everyone else?

              What makes a strong weight class, competition? If so then a division full of mediocre fighters struggling against each other and trading trinkets can be viewed as 'strong'.

              Fact is Hagler/Hopkins fought plenty of WW/LMW and quite a few nobodies. Were they best of the best or just the better of a poor bunch? Who knows and who even cares, fact is they reigned supreme in their respective eras and that is all that matters. Any comparison to someone they didn't fight is just pointless, albeit sometimes fun, but ultimately unanswerable speculation.

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              • Metho_4u
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                #27
                Originally posted by ultravividscene
                Why is it some people always blame the division when someone fighting in it is far better than everyone else?

                What makes a strong weight class, competition? If so then a division full of mediocre fighters struggling against each other and trading trinkets can be viewed as 'strong'.

                Fact is Hagler/Hopkins fought plenty of WW/LMW and quite a few nobodies. Were they best of the best or just the better of a poor bunch? Who knows and who even cares, fact is they reigned supreme in their respective eras and that is all that matters. Any comparison to someone they didn't fight is just pointless, albeit sometimes fun, but ultimately unanswerable speculation.
                It's also speculation that GayLoveKin would beat this fighter or that fighter. The fact is that he is fighting a WW, Kell Brook is a WW, that's what he's been fighting as, he makes the weight, that's what he is.

                Looking into the opponents previous competition, also tells us a lot. Hopkins might have fought DLH, but he knew he was the B side and went to 156, triple asswipe has said he won't fight at a cw, which is why his loser a@@ is fighting a WW in England rather than Vegas vs Canelo.

                Hopkins fought Roy Jones, DLH, Trinidad, winky wright, all great fighters, who themselves fought other great fighters, as well as each other. You know what else? Hopkins moved up and beat Tarver, Pascal, lost to Kovalev, but still took the risk and didn't get stopped. THAT'S why you cannot compare Hopkins to this unproven hype job.

                We are talking about a guy that has such a stellar amateur record, yet hasn't faced a single fighter that's considered elite in 35 fights...that's just amazing that anyone could defend that. Oh, "no one will fight him"....well lomachenko has a slightly better amateur record, and he's only been in 7 pro fights and is a 2 weight world champion, schooling Gary Russell, who is considered one of the very best in his division in the process, as well as other very good fighters, also trying to get fights with Rigo and Walters who don't seem real eager to make a deal. Oh! That's because of money though!..that sounds familiar doesn't it? Saunders, and Jacobs want more money. OK, so take short money to prove you're the true champ at the weight since you can't secure the canelo fight any other way m

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                • mick1303
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ultravividscene
                  Why is it some people always blame the division when someone fighting in it is far better than everyone else?

                  What makes a strong weight class, competition? If so then a division full of mediocre fighters struggling against each other and trading trinkets can be viewed as 'strong'.

                  Fact is Hagler/Hopkins fought plenty of WW/LMW and quite a few nobodies. Were they best of the best or just the better of a poor bunch? Who knows and who even cares, fact is they reigned supreme in their respective eras and that is all that matters. Any comparison to someone they didn't fight is just pointless, albeit sometimes fun, but ultimately unanswerable speculation.
                  It is not "always" they blame the division. Just when non-american dominates it. If GGG leaves this division and Mayweather unretires and grabs a belt, this division will miraculously heal itself and becomes one of the best ))) In fact all this parroting "he should move up" comes from Mayweather fans, who crave this scenario. Wouldn't it be nice to outpoint Canelo again at some catchweight and claim "middleweight crown"?

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                  • batista84
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Golovkin
                    BROOK is a bigger MW than Gennady, already proven. Brook himself said so. He was killing himself to WW to abuse, same thing if Gennady went down, he could kill himself to make WW. Same thing Canelo does, Canelo is a natural 168 pounder and kills himself for 154. This fight will be crazy dangerous!! Two undefeated powerful MWs in the prime!!!
                    You smoking pot

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                    • Fetta
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                      #30
                      Was surprised when Ricky Hatton would weight that much too but there is a difference between fighting weight and walking weight.

                      It'll show but most already know it will.

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