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  • WesternChamp
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    #131
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    Manny is doing what he should at this point in his career, fight the lesser threat, for bigger money! It's Manny's team, i.e. Roach and Crawford that always steps in their own ****! It was Roach, not "you guys," that said Manny would be best @ 140, and that Manny walks around @ 138! It was Arum who said the target was Crawford, then suddenly, after Crawford is a threat, the choice is Vargas! If you read the article that started this thread, who started the controversy? Arum said Manny turned down Crawford because he didn't want to go to 140, implying Crawford didn't want to go up to 147. Now Crawford is saying he did not get any offer at any weight! "You guys" didn't start this, it was Team Pacquiao and Top Rank! Who said Manny was afraid of needles? Who said Manny was given suspect shakes? Who said Manny has already signed contracts that never existed? Team Paquiao and their followers are the laughing stock of this site, because they're always the most ignorant sounding mother****ers in the world! GTFOH!
    what the hell are you talking about??

    you said bradley gets nothing for beating on a jr. ww and that bradley cant go back down to 140 like pac can, so im asking you when's the last time manny fought at 140??? talk about spinning it.

    so if bradley gets nothing for beating on a jr. ww, what does pac get for doing the same?

    look at you bringing in needles? arum ? wtf LOL!!!! stay on topic. this is a perfect example of flomonism. "you guys" complain about recycle fights but reject this one with the quickness because it doesnt fit your agenda. LOL

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      #132
      Originally posted by Bronx2245
      Manny is doing what he should at this point in his career, fight the lesser threat, for bigger money! It's Manny's team, i.e. Roach and Crawford that always steps in their own ****! It was Roach, not "you guys," that said Manny would be best @ 140, and that Manny walks around @ 138! It was Arum who said the target was Crawford, then suddenly, after Crawford is a threat, the choice is Vargas! If you read the article that started this thread, who started the controversy? Arum said Manny turned down Crawford because he didn't want to go to 140, implying Crawford didn't want to go up to 147. Now Crawford is saying he did not get any offer at any weight! "You guys" didn't start this, it was Team Pacquiao and Top Rank! Who said Manny was afraid of needles? Who said Manny was given suspect shakes? Who said Manny has already signed contracts that never existed? Team Paquiao and their followers are the laughing stock of this site, because they're always the most ignorant sounding mother****ers in the world! GTFOH!
      this is what you said, the bolded part, so im asking you when has pac fought at 140? --

      Originally posted by Bronx2245
      Sorry you can't get it! There's a big difference friends who want to fight and those who don't. Anyway, it's a lose-lose! Bradley gets nothing for beating a Jr. WW, because unlike Pacquiao, he can't go back to 140. Crawford gets nothing for beating Bradley @ 147, because Bradley doesn't have a title. Neither Bradley nor CXrawford sell PPVs! So if I'm Crawford, I want Danny Garcia @ 147, for the WBC WW title, or I want Adrien Broner @ 147, so I can make some money!

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      • Bronx2245
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        #133
        Originally posted by WesternChamp
        what the hell are you talking about??

        you said bradley gets nothing for beating on a jr. ww and that bradley cant go back down to 140 like pac can, so im asking you when's the last time manny fought at 140??? talk about spinning it.

        so if bradley gets nothing for beating on a jr. ww, what does pac get for doing the same?

        look at you bringing in needles? arum ? wtf LOL!!!! stay on topic. this is a perfect example of flomonism. "you guys" complain about recycle fights but reject this one with the quickness because it doesnt fit your agenda. LOL
        Who said that Manny could go back to 140??? Are you serious??? You don't know who said that Manny could go back to 140???

        July 24, 2016:

        Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach, who trains Postol and Pacquiao, says he would love to see the Filipino superstar return. Another possibility is a fight with WBO welterweight champion Jessie Vargas.

        Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum has set aside November 5th at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.

        "To me I would love it if would return, and do it against Floyd Mayweather, but that still seems remote. And if he can't do that, then we can do it at 140 pounds, that's where I'd like to see him," Roach said.

        "I think 140 pounds is where we would see the best Pacquiao. At 147 pounds he's not bad but I think his ideal weight is 140, where the speed and power will be combined better. Crawford is a competitive fighter, he could be difficult, and Jessie Vargas is coming off a big fight."

        On Saturday night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Terence Crawford punched his way to a lopsided 12-round unanimous decision over Viktor Postol Saturday to unif


        October 16, 2014:

        Pacquiao, 35, is currently in the early stages of training for his November 23 fight at The Venetian in Macau against Algieri (20-0, 8 knockouts), which will be the first defense of his WBO welterweight title. The fight will be fought at a catchweight of 144 pounds to test Pacquiao’s performance at a lower weight before they move down to 140 pounds.

        “I just think it’s much better for Manny to fight at 140. He’s much more productive at that weight. It’s much more natural for him to fight at that weight,” Roach said at the Pacman Wild Card Gym in General Santos City, Philippines on Wednesday, October 15



        October 16, 2014

        "I just think it's much better for Manny to fight at 140," Roach said in an interview with Rappler. "He's much more productive at that weight. It's much more natural for him to fight at that weight."

        The Hall of Fame trainer pointed out that Pacquiao was only forced to move up to the 147-pound division because the big fighters are there, insisting that the former pound-for-pound king is more dangerous at the junior welterweight division.

        "He's not a 147-pounder, he only forced himself to be a 147-pounder because that's where the money was but I think he's going to be a much more effective fighter at 140. I don't care who is there, we'll beat them all," Roach said.

        Trainer Freddie Roach revealed that Manny Pacquiao will likely go down to the junior welterweight division and face Danny Garcia after his upcoming fight against Chris Algieri that is scheduled on Nov. 22 in Macau, China.


        Did you NOT see any of these quotes in the past? This is typical Pac-Tardism!!!
        You blame everyone else except Team Pac-Tard for all the ridiculous things they say!

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          #134
          Originally posted by BreWall
          So Arum lied again. As usual.
          LOL, you know that's his MO!

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            #135
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            Who said that Manny could go back to 140??? Are you serious??? You don't know who said that Manny could go back to 140???

            July 24, 2016:

            Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach, who trains Postol and Pacquiao, says he would love to see the Filipino superstar return. Another possibility is a fight with WBO welterweight champion Jessie Vargas.

            Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum has set aside November 5th at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.

            "To me I would love it if would return, and do it against Floyd Mayweather, but that still seems remote. And if he can't do that, then we can do it at 140 pounds, that's where I'd like to see him," Roach said.

            "I think 140 pounds is where we would see the best Pacquiao. At 147 pounds he's not bad but I think his ideal weight is 140, where the speed and power will be combined better. Crawford is a competitive fighter, he could be difficult, and Jessie Vargas is coming off a big fight."

            On Saturday night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Terence Crawford punched his way to a lopsided 12-round unanimous decision over Viktor Postol Saturday to unif


            October 16, 2014:

            Pacquiao, 35, is currently in the early stages of training for his November 23 fight at The Venetian in Macau against Algieri (20-0, 8 knockouts), which will be the first defense of his WBO welterweight title. The fight will be fought at a catchweight of 144 pounds to test Pacquiao’s performance at a lower weight before they move down to 140 pounds.

            “I just think it’s much better for Manny to fight at 140. He’s much more productive at that weight. It’s much more natural for him to fight at that weight,” Roach said at the Pacman Wild Card Gym in General Santos City, Philippines on Wednesday, October 15



            October 16, 2014

            "I just think it's much better for Manny to fight at 140," Roach said in an interview with Rappler. "He's much more productive at that weight. It's much more natural for him to fight at that weight."

            The Hall of Fame trainer pointed out that Pacquiao was only forced to move up to the 147-pound division because the big fighters are there, insisting that the former pound-for-pound king is more dangerous at the junior welterweight division.

            "He's not a 147-pounder, he only forced himself to be a 147-pounder because that's where the money was but I think he's going to be a much more effective fighter at 140. I don't care who is there, we'll beat them all," Roach said.

            Trainer Freddie Roach revealed that Manny Pacquiao will likely go down to the junior welterweight division and face Danny Garcia after his upcoming fight against Chris Algieri that is scheduled on Nov. 22 in Macau, China.


            Did you NOT see any of these quotes in the past? This is typical Pac-Tardism!!!
            You blame everyone else except Team Pac-Tard for all the ridiculous things they say!
            wow really???

            yes, roach said he would like pac to figh at 140, but pac hasnt fought at 140 in years!!!

            your post is implying that pac is still fighting at 140 and 147.

            you said bradley beating a jr ww does nothing because bradley cant go back to 140 like pac can.

            so im asking you when was the last time pac fought at 140? are you really trying to play this game? im not asking what roach said, i've seen that article. what im asking you is when was the last time pac fought at 140 becauswe you said unlike tim, pac can still go to 140.

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              #136
              I don't know how much longer Bud has on his contract with Bob but I think once it's up Bud would be smart to bolt! Way better fights for him if he was to jump ship!

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                #137
                Originally posted by r1onnie2
                I don't know how much longer Bud has on his contract with Bob but I think once it's up Bud would be smart to bolt! Way better fights for him if he was to jump ship!
                That depends on what bob has given to bud before his contract is up. If Bob reward bud the sane way he did with Bradley then bud will be staying with TR.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by BreWall
                  So Arum lied again. As usual.

                  Terence Crawford: Manny Pacquiao Must Fight Me at 140!




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                    #139
                    Originally posted by WesternChamp
                    wow really???

                    yes, roach said he would like pac to figh at 140, but pac hasnt fought at 140 in years!!!

                    your post is implying that pac is still fighting at 140 and 147.

                    you said bradley beating a jr ww does nothing because bradley cant go back to 140 like pac can.

                    so im asking you when was the last time pac fought at 140? are you really trying to play this game? im not asking what roach said, i've seen that article. what im asking you is when was the last time pac fought at 140 becauswe you said unlike tim, pac can still go to 140.
                    So you're not asking what Roach, Manny's trainer said? To you, that's irrelevant, which makes you an idiot! It makes no difference when the last time Pac fought @ 140! His trainer, for years (including this year) said that was his most effective weight. Suddenly, it's a problem! And who said it's a problem? Arum! Not Roach, his trainer, who said Pac walks around @ 138, but his promoter! Anyway, no one wants to see Bradley vs. Crawford, or Bradley vs. Pacquiao IV, or Bradley vs. Vargas II. They want to see Pacquiao vs. Crawford at whatever ****ing weight! But their not gonna see it! Am I surprised...HELL NO! After Rios, Algeiri, and Bradley Part 3, NO ONE SHOULD BE SURPRISED!

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by WesternChamp
                      That depends on what bob has given to bud before his contract is up. If Bob reward bud the sane way he did with Bradley then bud will be staying with TR.
                      Hopefully because right now it just seems like a lot of lying and disrespect coming from Bob.

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