Alvarez still ring mag's mw champ

[ruedboy]

These days rankings, mandatory challengers and champs of the numerous boxing organizations are bogus and just about meaningless.
Still when Ring Mag lists Alvarez as lineal MW Champ, I gotta say WTF!
I realize Ring has some formula they go by that justifies calling Canelo champ, but damn this is definitey a case of the emperor has no clothes. SMH

[sugar ray lenrd]

These days rankings, mandatory challengers and champs of the numerous boxing organizations are bogus and just about meaningless.
Still when Ring Mag lists Alvarez as lineal MW Champ, I gotta say WTF!
I realize Ring has some formula they go by that justifies calling Canelo champ, but damn this is definitey a case of the emperor has no clothes. SMH

When the champ does not want to fight the contender then he automatically gets strip...shame on you Ring Mag...

[SugarRayCurtain]

shameful
Surely at some point Canelo should be relegated to a lower position, hes not even in the MW division nor has he won an official 160lbs title

[_Maxi]

These days rankings, mandatory challengers and champs of the numerous boxing organizations are bogus and just about meaningless.
Still when Ring Mag lists Alvarez as lineal MW Champ, I gotta say WTF!
I realize Ring has some formula they go by that justifies calling Canelo champ, but damn this is definitey a case of the emperor has no clothes. SMH

Oscar De la Hoya is the owner of the Ring magazine. Get it now?

[bigdunny1]

These days rankings, mandatory challengers and champs of the numerous boxing organizations are bogus and just about meaningless.
Still when Ring Mag lists Alvarez as lineal MW Champ, I gotta say WTF!
I realize Ring has some formula they go by that justifies calling Canelo champ, but damn this is definitey a case of the emperor has no clothes. SMH

Do you even know what lineal means? How would he be stripped of that? He's also rated number 1 on ESPN MW ranking as well because they put lineal champs automatically number 1. So unless they decide to break their rules he will be there until he loses or enough time has gone by that he hasn't fought at that weight.

[bigdunny1]

by the way the website you are on right now has him still as the Middleweight champ

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=boxing-ratings

Middleweight (155-160 lbs.)



Notable Recent Results

06/25: #9 Chris Eubank Jr. (23-1, 18 KO) TKO4 Tom Doran (17-1, 7 KO)



World Middleweight Champion: Saul Alvarez (47-1-1, 33 KO, Lineal/TBRB/Ring)

Lineage Descends From: Hopkins TKO12 Trinidad 09/29/2001



Top Ten Contenders

1. Gennady Golovkin (35-0, 32 KO, WBA Super, 16 Defenses; IBF, 1 Defenses; WBC, 4 Defenses)

2. Daniel Jacobs (31-1, 28 KO, WBA, 3 Defenses)

3. Billy Joe Saunders (23-0, 12 KO, WBO, 0 Defenses)

4. Miguel Cotto (40-5, 33 KO)

5. Andy Lee (34-3-1, 24 KO)

6. Peter Quillin (32-1-1, 23 KO)

7. David Lemieux (35-3, 32 KO)

8. Hassan N’Dam N’jikam (33-2, 19 KO)

9. Chris Eubank Jr. (23-1, 18 KO, interim WBA)

10. Jorge Sebastian Heiland (27-4-2, 14 KO)



Previous Champion: Miguel Cotto (2014-15)

Consecutive Title Defense Record, Lineal: Carlos Monzon - 14

Consecutive Title Defense Record, Other: Bernard Hopkins (IBF) – 20

Current Champion – Defenses: 1 – Lineal/TBRB/Ring

[New England]

ring has discgresion when deciding when and whether to strip canelo of his lineage. canelo is the guy who beat the guy leading all the way back to bernard hopkins. what you're saying is that it's unreasonable to have canelo as the middleweight champion when he's fighting his next fight at 154. it's also unreasonable to fight at 155 lbs, excluding virtually every middleweight on the planet over 27 years old from coming in healthy. furthermore, you think his road to the title, which was through an aging welterweight who won the title off of a dead guy with no knees, cheapens the title.

i agree with you.

canelo
cotto
martinez
pavlik
taylor
hopkins the legend.

that's the lineage. the ring can strip canelo of his lineage. it is in their right. but they won't. and i've got beef with that. it's keeping the best MW in the world from truly establishing himself.

ring mag is owned by goldenboy promotions. they rank based on a collection of writers, but they've also got a lot of discretion in stripping or maintaining their lineal title.


and let's just come out and say it:

he's ducking golovkin.
"we don't f#ck around."

[_Maxi]

Yeah bigdunny, but it's a shame cuz NO ONE considers him the real champion. He won it by beating an outsided JMW and avoided a fight with his mandatory. GGG is the real champion, you don't fool anyone.

[kidbazooka]

Oscar De la Hoya is the owner of the Ring magazine. Get it now?

That boy Oscar is a boss.

A lot of retire boxers could learn from him

[sicko]

UH...Of course he is Oscar OWNS Ring Magazine!

No Bias From Them Though Right? Last time you seen a fighter Parade around with a Ring Title Anyway? I don't even think fighters themselves take that publication serious anymore!