Brand vs Shabranskyy sparring clip (the guy Ward ducked/declined for Brand)

[MisterPullman]

And Andre Ward's manager is James Prince, a de****able creep who had his men beat up poor old Leonard Ellerbe, putting him in hospital.

https://pound4poundireland.wordpress.com/2013/03/15/theres-a-murky-violent-history-between-floyd-mayweather-and-his-former-manager-james-prince/

Ward used to work with convicted felon and PED guru Victor Conte.

The self-proclaimed Son of God Andre Ward is pretending to be a Christian, he's just covering up what he really is.

That's what I'm beginning to think.. Liking him less and less. And at this point I'm rooting for Kovalev, plus Kovalev winning would be better for the sport

[-Kev-]

Nothing new here, Andre Ward continues to duck the best fighters, like he's done all along. Now he continues to shamelessly duck Shabranskyy, a fight the fans have been craving for a couple of years now, to fight old man Kovalev and get an easy decision win. The weak punching little ducker is only hyped up by the *** crew

Man the **** up and fight Shabranskyy after Kovalev...B*tchre Whore

[DoktorSleepless]

You came up with the $60,000 Shabranskyy. You said twice as much as they were willing to pay they paid Brand $30,000. Simple arithmetic.

Why are you just making shit up? You spouted out the $60k number before I even said anything about that.

And what I said was

Dan Rafael saying that Shabransky' team wanted more than 2x the HBO license fee

2x the HBO license fee is not in anyway equivalent to "twice as much as they were willing to pay they paid Brand $30,000." HBO license fee is what HBO paid for the entire show.

I went by the half a mill figure, you yourself told me a little while back. Then out of nowhere, you come up with this $60k number.

And my points still stands. Shabranskyy will fight any top 175 for $150k, but needs half a mil to fight Ward.

[Rip Chudd]

Why are you just making shit up? You spouted out the $60k number before I even said anything about that.

And what I said was

2x the HBO license fee is not in anyway equivalent to "twice as much as they were willing to pay they paid Brand $30,000." HBO license fee is what HBO paid for the entire show.

I went by the half a mill figure, you yourself told me a little while back. Then out of nowhere, you come up with this $60k number.

And my points still stands. Shabranskyy will fight any top 175 for $150k, but needs half a mil to fight Ward.

It's pathetic as heck he just won't admit that he was wrong. Man up Freedom

[DoktorSleepless]

He received just under $2 mil for Barrera and for Smith..

What Roc Nation decides to contractually pay their fighters, is their business. It's not their business to overpay fighters that have nothing to do with them. As long as HBO isn't paying that and ruing their budget, it doesn't matter.

Even the $850,000 he was paid for Brand was way too much for a boring boxer facing a clubfighter who received just $30,000.

When Ward fights in Oakland, his live gates are pretty good.

Andre Ward-Sully B real ticket numbers:

Tickets sold - 6,873
Comp tickets - 1,359
Deadwood - 8,232
Net ticket sales - $598,954#boxing

— Steve Kim (@steveucnlive) May 18, 2016

According to CSAC, Ward-Dawson had 7,611 sold tickets for a gate of $706,469.25 with 1,038 comped tix. Pretty good numbers #boxing

— Steve Kim (@steveucnlive) September 12, 2012

This Brand fight had similar attendance, and if the gate was anywhere near the Barrera fight, an $850k purse is absolutely justifiable.

We don't know what HBO paid for the Barrera fight, but the gate helps pay for a large portion of the purses.

[Larry the boss]

Can you please explain to me how Ward bled for America? The true heroes that bled for the country are found in the battlefield.

He fought for America in the Olympics, he bled in the ring when he was fighting for America...

[Madison Boxing]

He fought for America in the Olympics, he bled in the ring when he was fighting for America...

he was fighting for himself

[Mr.Fantastic]

He fought for America in the Olympics, he bled in the ring when he was fighting for America...

Cong**** on him for winning gold for us but sports is totally different compared to truly risking your life for it.