Comments Thread For: Pros Admit To Struggling To Adapt To Olympic Fighting Style

[NEETzsche]

it doesn't. pros > amatuers.

if these amateur kids could jump into the top 10 and make millions for each fight they wouldn't be fighting for free. promotors would dangle money in front of their faces, adn they'd take it and run the pros.

thse guys shoudl just trust if they don't understand it.

western promoters certainly don't dangle money in front of fighters from countries the average westerner couldn't locate on a map. that's changing lately thanks to golovkin and co. breaking new ground, but it's still not as simple as you make out. golovkin himself has spoken about how little opportunity he had in the pros, and how he now hopes to use his own promotional company to make it easier for talented central asians & co. to break through in the future

also, pro boxing is inherently individualistic, and many fighters from smaller countries and nominally socialist countries prefer the prestige of fighting for their country

[Godsfly]

Didn't Golovkin win like 450 amateur fights, multiple world amateur championships, and a silver medal? But somehow the amateurs would "box his ears completely off"? How does that make sense?

yea, and golovkin was more of a boxer in the amateurs...also he never won gold. golovkin today leans much more on his power. he was also a lot faster.


i honestly believe golovkin would get his ears boxed off and wouldn't win gold if he tried. same fate as the rest of the pros.

now lamechenko and rigo? they would tare it up.......these are 2 fighters that are genius's in the ring. almost like scientist. very high ring iq's.........

[New England]

western promoters certainly don't dangle money in front of fighters from countries the average westerner couldn't locate on a map. that's changing lately thanks to golovkin and co. breaking new ground, but it's still not as simple as you make out. golovkin himself has spoken about how little opportunity he had in the pros, and how he now hopes to use his own promotional company to make it easier for talented central asians & co. to break through in the future

also, pro boxing is inherently individualistic, and many fighters from smaller countries and nominally socialist countries prefer the prestige of fighting for their country

if they had crowd pleasing styles and could jump into the top of the professionals they would get offers for those fights. as it stands they recieve offers to turn pro once they come out of the olympics and major international tournaments. what you've posted supports my point. in reality these kids [and they are hired from wherever and oftenimported here once they cut their teeth domestically / locally,] require years of investment so they can learn to box professionally.

in other words, they're nowhere near ready out of teh amatuers, and that they aren't typically targeting world titles right away is appropriate.

[GGG Gloveking]

yea, and golovkin was more of a boxer in the amateurs...also he never won gold. golovkin today leans much more on his power. he was also a lot faster.


i honestly believe golovkin would get his ears boxed off and wouldn't win gold if he tried. same fate as the rest of the pros.

now lamechenko and rigo? they would tare it up.......these are 2 fighters that are genius's in the ring. almost like scientist. very high ring iq's.........

So you're saying that Golovkins skills have diminished since turning pro? And of course a mid 30s fighter is going to be slower than the early20s version of that fighter. Thats simple to understand. I just dont understand how you think he's going to get his ears boxed off now when he didnt when he was an amateur.

[The Akbar One]

i can't agree with golovkin.....theres amatuer middleweights that would box circles around him. box his ears completely off. the problem is the amatuers are a lot more talented then what everyone is giving them credit for. i really believe theres more talent at amateur middleweight then pro. and thats truly sad.........

You might be right about the talent.

[The Akbar One]

i can't agree with golovkin.....theres amatuer middleweights that would box circles around him. box his ears completely off. the problem is the amatuers are a lot more talented then what everyone is giving them credit for. i really believe theres more talent at amateur middleweight then pro. and thats truly sad.........

So you're saying that Golovkins skills have diminished since turning pro? And of course a mid 30s fighter is going to be slower than the early20s version of that fighter. Thats simple to understand. I just dont understand how you think he's going to get his ears boxed off now when he didnt when he was an amateur.

He exaggerated a bit. Looking at the scores of the fights Golovkin lost they all seemed close. Golovkin is a better all around fighter now. That being said, the sorry state of the middleweight division puts bias in some peoples opinion of Golovkin. The fellow who stated the amateur middleweight division could be just as talented as the pro middleweight division has a point.

[Cinci Champ]

western promoters certainly don't dangle money in front of fighters from countries the average westerner couldn't locate on a map. that's changing lately thanks to golovkin and co. breaking new ground, but it's still not as simple as you make out. golovkin himself has spoken about how little opportunity he had in the pros, and how he now hopes to use his own promotional company to make it easier for talented central asians & co. to break through in the future

also, pro boxing is inherently individualistic, and many fighters from smaller countries and nominally socialist countries prefer the prestige of fighting for their country

true ggg and lomo etc etc are for sure helping get foreign fighters and mainly eastern europe fighters a built in fan base in the usa. theres a big portion of fans in usa that root for all eastern europe fighters over usa fighters regardless who the fighters are. i just like how in general olympic fighters are finding success in the pros. i mean think about all the great fighters that people think are best in world ward, ggg, rigo, lomenchenko, crawford, mayweather, wilder, all the great fighters right now were either in the olympics or barely missed out.

i dont follow amateur fighting per say but i have always loved watching and following olympic boxing even before i became a real fan of the sport in general. A lot has to do with cincinnati where im from always seemed to have someone on the usa boxing team.

[Godsfly]

So you're saying that Golovkins skills have diminished since turning pro? And of course a mid 30s fighter is going to be slower than the early20s version of that fighter. Thats simple to understand. I just dont understand how you think he's going to get his ears boxed off now when he didnt when he was an amateur.

I am saying golovkin falls on his power as oppose to much of anything else today. also he fights crap competition. when u fight crap you aren't tightening up your skills.......he's fallen in love with his power. when he does meet the guy who can take everything he can throw and also give in return thats when golovkin will get completely thrown off (ouma wasn't special at all. he was just simply taking golovkins punches for most of the rounds & it was very close leading into the eventual stoppage) golovkin couldn't win olympic gold back then what makes u think he can do it now?

lomechenko rigo yes.......golovkin? hell no...........

[MrRolltide91]

Not surprised

[GGG Gloveking]

I am saying golovkin falls on his power as oppose to much of anything else today. also he fights crap competition. when u fight crap you aren't tightening up your skills.......he's fallen in love with his power. when he does meet the guy who can take everything he can throw and also give in return thats when golovkin will get completely thrown off (ouma wasn't special at all. he was just simply taking golovkins punches for most of the rounds & it was very close leading into the eventual stoppage) golovkin couldn't win olympic gold back then what makes u think he can do it now?

lomechenko rigo yes.......golovkin? hell no...........

I think he uses his power when he needs it. Watching the Lemieux fight, Golovkin didn't fall back on his power, he used range, footwork, and an extremely effective jab to dominate that fight. It was a boxing clinic Im glad to have witnessed live.

I never made the argument that Golovkin would win gold. I just responded to your statement that Golovkin would "get his ears boxed off." I guess the major question is, Does winning silver or bronze equate to getting your ears boxed off? I say no it does not. The boxer that was gassed after 1 and needed the fight stopped got his ears boxed off. The Chinese guy, LV Kim or whoever, lost a close decision he and many others thought he won. That is not getting his ears boxed off.
To further illustrate this point, in Golovkins last amateur fight, he lost. He knocked the guy down twice in the fight. Did GGG get his ears boxed off? Or did he just get robbed?