Originally posted by magicjordan
To 20 p4p since 1980
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This is dificult considering p4p is such a hard term to use when discussing some people who didn't fluctuate weight classes, or long careers. It's also dificult considering I can't determine whether to use fighters who fought into the 80's or started/peaked in the 80's.
In no order:
Hopkins
RJJ
Mayweather Jr
Tszyu
Hagler
Ray Leanord
Pryor
Lewis
Pacqiao
Toney
Holyfield
Holmes
Duran
ODLH
Hearns
Whitaker
MAB
Nelson
Benitez
JCC
I think that's 20, but I'm too lazy to count.Comment
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1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Pernell Whitaker
3) Roy Jones
4) Mike McCallum
5) James Toney
6) Michael Nunn
7) Roberto Duran
8) Ray Leonard
9) Mike Tyson
10) Julio Cesar Chavez
11) Thomas Hearns
12) Marvin Hagler
13) Naseem Hamed
14) Kostya Tszyu
15) Michael Spinks
16) Oscar De La Hoya
17) Felix Trinidad
18) Joe Calzaghe
19) Ricardo Lopez
20) Gerald McClellanComment
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Wow, JuyJuy, i actully think you have a pretty damn good list.Originally posted by JuicyJuice1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Pernell Whitaker
3) Roy Jones
4) Mike McCallum
5) James Toney
6) Michael Nunn
7) Roberto Duran
8) Ray Leonard
9) Mike Tyson
10) Julio Cesar Chavez
11) Thomas Hearns
12) Marvin Hagler
13) Naseem Hamed
14) Kostya Tszyu
15) Michael Spinks
16) Oscar De La Hoya
17) Felix Trinidad
18) Joe Calzaghe
19) Ricardo Lopez
20) Gerald McClellanComment
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HW's should not be in p4p lists unless they started out at a lower weight.Originally posted by mystyal2k5i still think tyson should be number 1. dude had welterweight handspeed,middleweight footspeed and his power is above most heavyweights ever.
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You do make a good point concerning Tyson; but I have a tendency to be extremely tough on heavyweights when it comes to p4p lists. The phrase pound-for-pound was created specifically for non-heavyweights to ascertain their overall worth. So, for me, putting a heavyweight at the top of the list is equivalent to a camel fitting through the eye of a needle. However, Tyson was talented enought that that argument could be made for him, just as it could be made for Ali.Originally posted by mystyal2k5i still think tyson should be number 1. dude had welterweight handspeed,middleweight footspeed and his power is above most heavyweights ever.
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