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  • Easy-E
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    #41
    Originally posted by magicjordan
    tyson
    leonard
    hagler
    lewis
    holyfield
    duran
    hearns
    sanchez
    chavez
    delahoya
    trinidad
    jones
    toney
    pryor
    mayweather
    hopkins
    taylor
    pacquiao
    morales
    barrera
    I think it would be wise to learn about how the original pound for pound list was created before you post.
    Last edited by Easy-E; 05-05-2006, 02:01 AM.

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    • Dirt E Gomez
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      #42
      This is dificult considering p4p is such a hard term to use when discussing some people who didn't fluctuate weight classes, or long careers. It's also dificult considering I can't determine whether to use fighters who fought into the 80's or started/peaked in the 80's.

      In no order:

      Hopkins
      RJJ
      Mayweather Jr
      Tszyu
      Hagler
      Ray Leanord
      Pryor
      Lewis
      Pacqiao
      Toney
      Holyfield
      Holmes
      Duran
      ODLH
      Hearns
      Whitaker
      MAB
      Nelson
      Benitez
      JCC

      I think that's 20, but I'm too lazy to count.

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        #43
        1) Floyd Mayweather
        2) Pernell Whitaker
        3) Roy Jones
        4) Mike McCallum
        5) James Toney
        6) Michael Nunn
        7) Roberto Duran
        8) Ray Leonard
        9) Mike Tyson
        10) Julio Cesar Chavez
        11) Thomas Hearns
        12) Marvin Hagler
        13) Naseem Hamed
        14) Kostya Tszyu
        15) Michael Spinks
        16) Oscar De La Hoya
        17) Felix Trinidad
        18) Joe Calzaghe
        19) Ricardo Lopez
        20) Gerald McClellan

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          #44
          Originally posted by JuicyJuice
          1) Floyd Mayweather
          2) Pernell Whitaker
          3) Roy Jones
          4) Mike McCallum
          5) James Toney
          6) Michael Nunn
          7) Roberto Duran
          8) Ray Leonard
          9) Mike Tyson
          10) Julio Cesar Chavez
          11) Thomas Hearns
          12) Marvin Hagler
          13) Naseem Hamed
          14) Kostya Tszyu
          15) Michael Spinks
          16) Oscar De La Hoya
          17) Felix Trinidad
          18) Joe Calzaghe
          19) Ricardo Lopez
          20) Gerald McClellan
          Wow, JuyJuy, i actully think you have a pretty damn good list.

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          • JuicyJuice
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            #45
            Actually, I might put McCallum ahead of Jones.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Shanus16
              A near perfect list, although I would have put Chavez up a few notches.
              You know...you're right. Whitaker and Chavez should go above Pryor. Thanks for pointing that out.

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                #47
                i still think tyson should be number 1. dude had welterweight handspeed,middleweight footspeed and his power is above most heavyweights ever.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by mystyal2k5
                  i still think tyson should be number 1. dude had welterweight handspeed,middleweight footspeed and his power is above most heavyweights ever.
                  HW's should not be in p4p lists unless they started out at a lower weight.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by mystyal2k5
                    i still think tyson should be number 1. dude had welterweight handspeed,middleweight footspeed and his power is above most heavyweights ever.
                    You do make a good point concerning Tyson; but I have a tendency to be extremely tough on heavyweights when it comes to p4p lists. The phrase pound-for-pound was created specifically for non-heavyweights to ascertain their overall worth. So, for me, putting a heavyweight at the top of the list is equivalent to a camel fitting through the eye of a needle. However, Tyson was talented enought that that argument could be made for him, just as it could be made for Ali.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by JuicyJuice
                      Actually, I might put McCallum ahead of Jones.
                      I know it was the end of his career, but simply the way ROy beat him makes it difficult for me at least, to put him above Roy.

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