Floyd's come back was #2 p4p Marquez.... Pac's return... Vargas...

[NUCLEAR]

****in kill em!

Great stuff man. I was getting sick of all the Pacstains running around beating their chests, "Pacquiaos a warrior! Never ducked anyone!"

Memory only serves them right when it benefits their fighter.

Don't be envious when your favorite fighter is a coward.

[travestyny]

Pay off? You do not even need to be the one that pays off everyone to sway them.

Where does Floyd reside? Nevada, USA. That helps him out right there.

Nevada makes truck loads of money if Floyd keeps on winning. That helps him out right there.

Floyd calls out who he likes and then NSAC takes it into account and selects the judges, refs, ring size .....


but he does pay off USADA and helped get them on the map as far as boxing is concerned. So USADA returned Floyd the favor.

hahahahahah. Ok, so now it's:

"Mannnn, Nevada just wanted to keep him winning to bring in money....even though he only arguably lost 1, mayyyybe 2 fights."

You are the worst kind of person that can't give a man respect for what he's worked hard for and earned. Yep. Congratulations, you are the biggest hater. Go accept your award.

[New England]

marquez was a small lightweight at the time.

he was 133.5 in a fight AFTER floyd. dude was claiming to be walking around under the LW limit during fight week, and when he's scaling 133.5, that means he's telling the truth!


both fights are garbage. at least try and not be a fanboy.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd only destroyed JMM because there was a lot of noise that Manny would beat him. So he took on the guy that in the eyes of many had defeated Manny as a way of showing fans how ridiculous that talk was.

If Manny fights Vargas next its garbage, same as Floyd/Berto. Manny, same af Floyd, has earned the right to fight whomever he wishes.

[New England]

Floyd only destroyed JMM because there was a lot of noise that Manny would beat him. So he took on the guy that in the eyes of many had defeated Manny as a way of showing fans how ridiculous that talk was.

If Manny fights Vargas next its garbage, same as Floyd/Berto. Manny, same af Floyd, has earned the right to fight whomever he wishes.

he fought a guy who was 133.5 in his NEXT fight. he did this so he could tune up against a no hoper on PPV a few days after mexican independence day.


just don't be a fanboy. all i ask. a mismatch is a mismatch.

[The Big Dunn]

he fought a guy who was 133.5 in his NEXT fight. he did this so he could tune up against a no hoper on PPV a few days after mexican independence day.


just don't be a fanboy. all i ask. a mismatch is a mismatch.

When Floyd is the subject of a thread posting the truth in a positive way doesn't make you a fanboy. you are being an overly negative revisionist and calling anyone that isn't doing same a fanboy.

My point and your point are both correct. Floyd got a return tune up against a LW that in the eyes of many defeated the guy who people were saying would defeat Floyd at WW. It just so happens he was also the #2 p4p fighter in the world and then returned to LW the next fight.

[New England]

When Floyd is the subject of a thread posting the truth in a positive way doesn't make you a fanboy. you are being an overly negative revisionist and calling anyone that isn't doing same a fanboy.

My point and your point are both correct. Floyd got a return tune up against a LW that in the eyes of many defeated the guy who people were saying would defeat Floyd at WW. It just so happens he was also the #2 p4p fighter in the world and then returned to LW the next fight.

and weight classes matter, a lot, making it a massive cherrypick. to use your word, the fight was "garbage." i'm not being "overly negative about anyting." i'm calling a cherrypick a cherrypick. which it was. a small lightweight fought a welterweight and

vargas is a mediocre fighter. marquez is an all time great, but he was a small lightweight in '09. both are garbage fights. marquez was on the p4p list because of victories over 130 and 135 lbers. until he hooked up with memo heredia and went through a second puberty he looked like the former featherweight that he was, fighting at WW for the money.

[The Big Dunn]

and weight classes matter, a lot, making it a massive cherrypick. to use your word, the fight was "garbage." i'm not being "overly negative about anyting." i'm calling a cherrypick a cherrypick. which it was. a small lightweight fought a welterweight and

vargas is a mediocre fighter. marquez is an all time great, but he was a small lightweight in '09. both are garbage fights. marquez was on the p4p list because of victories over 130 and 135 lbers. until he hooked up with memo heredia and went through a second puberty he looked like the former featherweight that he was, fighting at WW for the money.

It was a return fight. if you only want to highlight the negative aspects of it, so be it. just don't complain if someone only highlights the positives. they are just your opposite. neither of you is incorrect.

If they are a fanboy, you are their mirror image.

JMM was on the list because outside of the 3 KD's in rd 1 of the 1st fight, he arguably won16 of the next 23 rounds he and Manny fought. Manny, according to you and others, was going to beat Floyd at ww and was the best p4p fighter in the world. So Floyd made a point and yes, made some huge money on a Mexican holiday. Again, both of us are correct in what we are posting.

JMM is an ATG but he had no chance to beat Floyd, who is bigger, stronger, faster, better in every way. Vargas , IMO has no chance to beat Manny, who is better in every way.

[New England]

It was a return fight. if you only want to highlight the negative aspects of it, so be it. just don't complain if someone only highlights the positives. they are just your opposite. neither of you is incorrect.

If they are a fanboy, you are their mirror image.

JMM was on the list because outside of the 3 KD's in rd 1 of the 1st fight, he arguably won16 of the next 23 rounds he and Manny fought. Manny, according to you and others, was going to beat Floyd at ww and was the best p4p fighter in the world. So Floyd made a point and yes, made some huge money on a Mexican holiday. Again, both of us are correct in what we are posting.

JMM is an ATG but he had no chance to beat Floyd, who is bigger, stronger, faster, better in every way. Vargas , IMO has no chance to beat Manny, who is better in every way.

only highlighting the negative aspects? [all time great, still 2-3 weight classes smaller.]

or accentuating positive aspects of pacquiao's fight? [that it's simply a garbage fight?]


i'm not a fanboy. you just don't read what you don't want to read, and read what you want to hear. marquez was a gigantic cherry pick. so is this fight. just accept it and move on.



and fianlly, i've never once, at any weight class, thought floyd would lose to pacuqiao. not once. hit the search button or use google if you want to. i think manny's got a better resume because he was a flyweight.

again, i'm not a pacquiao fanboy. i didn't even post in NSB during the height of the racewar. did you? anybody want to verify? and i went to vegas to watch floyd fight canelo. i wasn't there for canelo. cost me a lot of money, and i hate flying. but let me guess, i'm the opposite of you, a pacquiao fanboy, right?

[The Big Dunn]

only highlighting the negative aspects? [all time great, still 2-3 weight classes smaller.]

or accentuating positive aspects of pacquiao's fight? [that it's simply a garbage fight?]


i'm not a fanboy. you just don't read what you don't want to read, and read what you want to hear. marquez was a gigantic cherry pick. so is this fight. just accept it and move on.



and fianlly, i've never once, at any weight class, thought floyd would lose to pacuqiao. not once. hit the search button or use google if you want to. i think manny's got a better resume because he was a flyweight.

again, i'm not a pacquiao fanboy. i didn't even post in NSB during the height of the racewar. did you? anybody want to verify? and i went to vegas to watch floyd fight canelo. i wasn't there for canelo. cost me a lot of money, and i hate flying. but let me guess, i'm the opposite of you, a pacquiao fanboy, right?

You can call it as you wish.

I said if you call someone a fanboy and they are doing the exact same thing you are only with another fighter you and he are equals.

You often post this. You weren't there for Floyd, you were there for the fight. Quite possibly you were there to see Floyd lose.

you being there means nothing. I was at Bhop/Tito and am not a huge fan of either. I was also at Bhop/ODH and was hoping ODH would lose, I wasn't there for Bhop though.

Its fine to be a fan of a specific fighter. Since when did that become bad? Its also ok to respond to negative posts with positive factual posts.

Whenever a poster refutes negative posts about Floyd with positive facts they are called a fanboy. It's the lasting legacy from the Floyd/manny war. That you use the term so much shows that why you maybe weren't directly involved, you clearly have picked a side, which is ok.