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  • soul_survivor
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    #11
    Originally posted by FrankieClutch
    Because I don't want the Welterweight division to slip back into the waiting game, waiting on Manny and not taking on any real challenges in hopes of staying undefeated to get that Manny phone call.

    I have the same feelings towards a Floyd return.
    That's a problem with the promoters and managers of the fighters involved and playing the waiting game, not Pac's fault.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      Broner is a worse fight than Vargas. Broner is not better than Vargas. Arum said he never offered Garcia the fight. Thurman said he'd fight Pacquiao
      July 21st, 2016
      FREDDIE ROACH: PACQUIAO CAN MAKE 140LBS "PRETTY EASILY"

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      • soul_survivor
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        #13
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        You actually think Crawford saying that is what caused the fight not to happen? Dude, have some integrity.

        Manny wants to fight Floyd again so he will pick easy guys he can beat until then, no different then Floyd picking Berto to fulfill the contractual obligations and remain undefeated for a chance at 50-0.
        Are you an idiot or just busy sucking some TMT ****?

        Crawford just stated he won't move to 140. Manny is busy with his politics and wants that November date because it occurs during a political break. You probably don't have a job so you don't understand what a break from work is.

        Pac doesn't have the time to go into a 5 year negotiation with a guy pulling up stumbling blocks for the fight to take place. If Crawford had said, "yeah I want the fight" and Pac had chosen Vargas, you could call it a duck or as you put it "avoid". That's not what happened.

        And Pac is fighting the only available world title holder in his division.

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        • sicko
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          #14
          Plenty of good fighters for Crawford to build up his legacy against

          Give me Crawford vs Barthelemy at 140 that is the fight him getting excited about! Crawford vs Sergey Lipinets, Crawford vs Mikey Garcia when he moves up is a huge fight. Crawford vs Felix Verdejo could be one Arum if working towards eventually in another year or so. Crawford just got to 140, I would like to see him Unify maybe go after the IBF next vs Eduard Troyanovsky. No need to rush to 147 just yet before building a legacy at 140

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          • FrankieClutch
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            #15
            Originally posted by soul_survivor
            That's a problem with the promoters and managers of the fighters involved and playing the waiting game, not Pac's fault.
            I didn't say it was his fault. But I know it would happen if him and/or Floyd came back full time

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            • animelive
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              #16
              Pac doesn't have anything left to prove. He is a once in a generation fighter like Floyd and they can fight whoever they want now. They have both paid their dues.

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              • hhs661
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                #17
                I can only imagine if oscar would've fought Forbes and not Manny afterwards. What would these mild mannered Manny fans say about that because you know, it's difficult to lose weight as you get older the way oscar did

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                • Motorcity Cobra
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                  #18
                  FREDDIE ROACH WANTS TERENCE CRAWFORD AT 140 NEXT FOR PACQUIAO; DOESN'T THINK HE'LL RETIRE

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                  • soul_survivor
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by hhs661
                    I can only imagine if oscar would've fought Forbes and not Manny afterwards. What would these mild mannered Manny fans say about that because you know, it's difficult to lose weight as you get older the way oscar did
                    Oscar actively courted the Manny fight. Like he said, Pacquiao was p4p no.1 and he wanted that. He had a motivation for it. Winning a trunket at 140 isn't any more or less motivation than winning a trunket at 147.

                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                    FREDDIE ROACH WANTS TERENCE CRAWFORD AT 140 NEXT FOR PACQUIAO; DOESN'T THINK HE'LL RETIRE

                    Again, what has that video got to do with Pacquiao saying he would move to 140 or that he would fight Crawford. Plus, how do you respond to Crawford saying he wouldn't fight Pacquiao?

                    Heck what am I saying, you thought Postol would beat Crawford. You're some bum who just jumps on the latest band wagon.

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                    • Motorcity Cobra
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor
                      Oscar actively courted the Manny fight. Like he said, Pacquiao was p4p no.1 and he wanted that. He had a motivation for it. Winning a trunket at 140 isn't any more or less motivation than winning a trunket at 147.



                      Again, what has that video got to do with Pacquiao saying he would move to 140 or that he would fight Crawford. Plus, how do you respond to Crawford saying he wouldn't fight Pacquiao?

                      Heck what am I saying, you thought Postol would beat Crawford. You're some bum who just jumps on the latest band wagon.
                      Arum has spoke to Pacquiao directly and says there are no issues with making a deal.
                      "I've talked to Manny and he is willing to give [Terence the] opportunity," said Arum to ESPN Deportes. "But first Terence has an important commitment to fulfill before he can receive [that opportunity]. Manny has already said yes."
                      According to Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, he spoke with eight division world champion Manny Pacquiao and the Filipino superstar has agreed to fight Terence Crawford, who holds the WBO junior welterweight world title.

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