If Pac beats Vargas....do you place him above May in the TBE race?

[j.one]

Yes, this is the biggest test of manny's life, if he somehow wins the fight, he will be crowned king of everything and even his singing will improve, thats how big of a fight this is for Manny.

That should hold manny over, no amount of praise will ever be enough to truly capture what a huge win for the world this will be if manny can win this fight, manny will save us all if he can just win this one fight, thereby deeming him a superhero perhaps even god himself.

[b00g13man]

[GOD-FR33]

Hold fast...

Leonard beat Duran too and many consider Duran as greater.

Please tell me how Floyd's resume and accomplishments are better than Pac's?

Those people are morons and haters. SRL is arguably the greatest fighter EVER. He had no weaknesses. The only reason why Duran beat him in the first fight, is because SRL was pissed off. It happens a lot when you're young. LoL. If he wanted to box in the first fight, he would've won. Matter of fact, IMO the fight came down to the 15th round, where Duran finally got tired and SRL dominated the round. Nobody talks about the 15th round of that fight. SRL could've easily gotten a draw in that fight! He was equally as tough as Duran, so how was Duran a better fighter????? He wasn't. I think that Duran is the most violent fighter I have ever seen in a boxing ring. Smh. He is the greatest lightweight ever.

But you are spot on about Manny and Floyd. It's not even close! Manny is a better fighter than Floyd and his resume STOMPS Floyd's also. Floyd's biggest win, is Chico( RIP). And that's sad when you look at who else he could've fought. Cotto was a legacy win but he thought Cotto was finished. He was embarrassed by a B Level fighter in Maidana in the first fight. Floyd wanted to prove that he and Broner are nothing alike in the ring but yet their fights against Maidana shows that Broner has more power and is equally as tough as Floyd. Smh. So, how good is Floyd really??? Manny would've given Maidana a beating!!!!

[Kay D]

[The Big Dunn]

Leonard beat Duran too and many consider Duran as greater.

Please tell me how Floyd's resume and accomplishments are better than Pac's?

Objective Historians/writers/journalists always have Floyd ahead of Manny in any ATG list they compile. The "fair and impartial" boxrec computer has floyd ahead of Manny.

Maybe it's because Floyd hasn't lost. Manny has. Maybe its because Manny's greatest win, Barrera, was against a guy who was previously retired after getting destroyed by Junior Jones. Manny's 2nd best win, Morales, came after Manny lost to him and then was destroyed by Zahir Raheem. Manny's 3rd best win, JMM, is questioned by many (although I thought he won the 2nd jmm fight). Floyd shut the same JMM out with ease (of course he was bigger). Maybe its because Floyd also dominated Manny in the eyes of virtually everyone that watched the fight.

Or maybe its because Floyd has fought and defeated so many HOF'ers and champions.

In your case, You will rank Manny above Floyd because you like Manny and hate black people (see PBP's signature). Objective people ranking fighters for a magazine or forum do not share your warped mindset and don't use hating black people as one of the factors in their rankings.

Other than Floyd being black, why does it bother you that Floyd is seen as better than Manny?

[incredible_22]

No. I expect him to KO Vargas. He already beat Bradley fairly easily and Bradley beat Vargas easily until the 12 round when Vargas caught him coming in with a big straight right. Vargas isn't that good and either Mayweather or Pacquiao should easily beat him. A win over Vargas changes nothing when it comes to comparing Pacquiao to Mayweather.

And when he does KO Vargas then will come all the "Pac has his killer instinct back...Pac is putting all 140-147 fighters on notice...blah, blah, blah". Then he'll fight Crawford, get countered relentlessly, have JMM flashbacks and goes back to being a politician...and im a Pac fan

[Xi_]

whoever ranks pacquiao needs their heads checked

[Left Hook Tua]

Of course.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Objective Historians/writers/journalists always have Floyd ahead of Manny in any ATG list they compile. The "fair and impartial" boxrec computer has floyd ahead of Manny.

Maybe it's because Floyd hasn't lost. Manny has. Maybe its because Manny's greatest win, Barrera, was against a guy who was previously retired after getting destroyed by Junior Jones. Manny's 2nd best win, Morales, came after Manny lost to him and then was destroyed by Zahir Raheem. Manny's 3rd best win, JMM, is questioned by many (although I thought he won the 2nd jmm fight). Floyd shut the same JMM out with ease (of course he was bigger). Maybe its because Floyd also dominated Manny in the eyes of virtually everyone that watched the fight.

Or maybe its because Floyd has fought and defeated so many HOF'ers and champions.

In your case, You will rank Manny above Floyd because you like Manny and hate black people (see PBP's signature). Objective people ranking fighters for a magazine or forum do not share your warped mindset and don't use hating black people as one of the factors in their rankings.

Other than Floyd being black, why does it bother you that Floyd is seen as better than Manny?

Most of them are dumb as fuck. Most of those writers didn't grow up to boxing, it's just the job they could find and they stick with it while having passion for other things. Most type **** to follow the waves too, as long as they get hits.


Pac lost and so did other top ATGs. Pac has beaten a lot of HOF'ers and ATGs. I used to shit on Pac when the *******s used to post often here, so I'm not being biased at all. Pac earned his stripes.

Yes I hate black people so much that I'm praising one in my AV. You're just like the other dudes that have no real comeback and scream racist.

[Kigali]

Leonard beat Duran too and many consider Duran as greater.

Please tell me how Floyd's resume and accomplishments are better than Pac's?

Nobody with sense considers Duran better than Leonard.



Floyd used JMM as a tuneup after 2 years away.

JMM put pack to sleep and damn near killed him.

Floyd beat Oscar at 154 when he had a title.
What did Oscar have when Pac fought him at 147?.....Nothing

Floyd beat Shane when he had a title.
What did Shane have when Manny fought him....Nothing.

Fighters imitate Floyd's style

NOBODY falls in on one foot with their hands by their balls trying to be like Pactrash.