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  • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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    #21
    Originally posted by eco1
    We have 2 sides:

    The haters and the lovers.

    We only have a few level headed guys who can accept what is right and what is wrong.

    At this pace we have 4-5-6 new threads on GGG either hating or loving, but not many which are just an analysis of his fights or the boxer himself.

    Yes, this is yet another "GGG" thread in the end, but one that asks you guys to start discussing with some class and objectivity.

    There are facts and sometimes both sides forget about that and just shoot from the heart, but the heart many times make you look like a complete idiot.


    I am just asking as nice as i can that we stop making the same old threads, stop saying the same old BS cause i am loosing my time trying to find something worth reading.

    Do not jump on me , i am only asking as a favor.

    Take good care!
    this happened with Mayweather/Pac and everyone loved it... why the complaint and call to an end of it now? but I do agree...

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    • animelive
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      #22
      Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
      Ayala: Golovkin must move up to prove it.

      Wilder: Golovkin is a hypocrite.

      Body Snatcher: If he's so good then move up

      Paulie: Golovkin did Ward like Canelo is doing him.

      Roy Jones Jr: Golovkin had the chance to fight Ward but didn't.

      Deal with it coward.
      So people from other divisions are jealous and people from Golovkin's division realizes how great he is. Makes sense. That is how it usually goes. If Wilder was in MW, he would run like an olympian, lets be real.

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      • SterlingStained
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        #23
        Originally posted by New England
        as others said, this is actually lighter than the mayweather / pacquiao race war.


        but that's what this is. it's a race war primarily. a lot of the anti golovkin posters are black and feel insecure about a white boxer being that good and a threat to guys with whom they identify. same thing, in reverse, happened with pacquiao and pinoys / white dudes. they drew lines in teh sand based on skin color, too.

        they identify with a boxer, and can't see clearly because of it.
        from jack johnson to joe loius/max schmelling to rocky marciano to ali frazier to salvador sanchez wilfredo gomez and the never ending puerto rican mexican rivalry to oscar vs chavez sr real mexican vs american pocho to bernard hopkins i never let a white boy beat me calzaghe to floyd manny.....

        to now with GGG lomancheko getting hated on by all the black posters on this site.....

        race/racism has always been part of boxing.

        it will always be.

        its the most personal, most human sport in the world.

        humanity is tribal. its ingrained in our dna.

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        • eco1
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          #24
          Guys, we are doing the same, as if we got paid by them or they are our real friends.
          They are only fighters and they do what their promoters say.

          I don't like the Brook fight even thou i consider Brook smart and the best at his weight.

          That said, why didn't Jacobs, Lara, BJS, etc, etc, etc, Step up to the plate?

          Do not give me the "money" answer.
          What was offered to Brook was offered to them.

          I think the "i don't want to loose my zero" s h i t is doing a disservice to boxing.

          Before we had fighters when i was growing up, now we have a lot od divas and businessmen. All lead by one big fool who made people ride on his back while not seeing the future.

          I just hope some people start realizing money is not a legacy, if it would have been i would been reading books about my grandfather and family.

          Legacy is something you leave with your actions.

          I blame both GGG in part but also those who don't want to test themselves against him.

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          • eco1
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            #25
            Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
            Why won't the coward move up? You Golovkin fans refuse to answer.
            I don't have that answer, i would love to see him move up.

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            • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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              #26
              Originally posted by Sterling Archer
              from jack johnson to joe loius/max schmelling to rocky marciano to ali frazier to salvador sanchez wilfredo gomez and the never ending puerto rican mexican rivalry to oscar vs chavez sr real mexican vs american pocho to bernard hopkins i never let a white boy beat me calzaghe to floyd manny.....

              to now with GGG lomancheko getting hated on by all the black posters on this site.....

              race/racism has always been part of boxing.

              it will always be.

              its the most personal, most human sport in the world.

              humanity is tribal. its ingrained in our dna.
              good post but GGG and Loma are not getting hated on by blk posters, blk posters for the most part are calling out the constant hypocrisy by the fans of fighters who posted daily, criticized opponents,/level of comp, told fighters to move up n fight better comp, etc so any chance they get, when they see fighters like GGG getting praised for doing way less than Floyd or them saying he doesn't need to move up they make threads about it. Im so called blk (which is a color not a race) and im a fan of both GGG and Loma. the majority of the threads are to call out hypocrisy of posters/fans because the majority of GGG fans were pac man fans who jumped ship and they posted day n night about certain fighters.

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              • cork
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                #27
                Originally posted by New England
                as others said, this is actually lighter than the mayweather / pacquiao race war.


                but that's what this is. it's a race war primarily. a lot of the anti golovkin posters are black and feel insecure about a white boxer being that good and a threat to guys with whom they identify. same thing, in reverse, happened with pacquiao and pinoys / white dudes. they drew lines in teh sand based on skin color, too.

                they identify with a boxer, and can't see clearly because of it.
                I dont think it's race. I think its more persona. I will always root for porter because the dudes humble and I dislike malignaggi because he talks too much. People dislike broner and mayweather not because they're black but just how they portray themselves just like how Tyson fury barely have fans here.

                Some of them probably is probably race but I don't think the majority of them is. Ggg situation is weird though because I think its like only a couple of haters who makes alt and just spam the same **** over and over. Like I'm pretty sure paulie walnuts and aboutfkntime are the same people. Just look at how they write in every thread.

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                • _Maxi
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
                  Ayala: Golovkin must move up to prove it.

                  Wilder: Golovkin is a hypocrite.

                  Body Snatcher: If he's so good then move up

                  Paulie: Golovkin did Ward like Canelo is doing him.

                  Roy Jones Jr: Golovkin had the chance to fight Ward but didn't.

                  Deal with it coward.
                  So all your responses are that he should move up. Guess what? no one needs to move up to prove anything. There are plenty of MW's to fight him. They are scared.

                  Anyway GGG will move up in 2017.

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                  • _Maxi
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts
                    Responded? They are FACTS, every one of them true.
                    It's easy boy... if he's a hype job then why are Jacobs, BJS, etc.. asking for life changing money?

                    Answer

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                    • CaneloMaidana
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BoxingFan85
                      I am not sure if you visit the HW thread often but Fury is crapped upon by a lot of people, but when you do come across the posts & see the comments & who they think is superior than Fury, I'll let you be a judge of that.. People are giving Frampton a lot of stick for ducking Rigo & someone made a thread the other day saying Loma is all hype & his resume sucks..
                      We cannot say it is not about the race when evidences suggest otherwise. Most people are also biased based on their countrymen..

                      No Fury is very criticized but most of those posters seem to be Euros.

                      Frampton is called out for ducking Rigo but gets very little hate.

                      Loma almost never gets criticism, even vs Martinez people said it was a blah fight cause he's so great.

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