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  • kafkod
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    #21
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    Ok but that doesn't excuse him from a failed test. Athletes are responsible for what they put in their bodies.



    http://www.ukad.org.uk/medications-a...s/supplements/
    If Fury had failed a test 18 months ago he would have been punished in some way for it by now.

    Can you give me one example of an athlete who failed a drug test and was allowed to carry on competing for over a year without anybody even knowing about it? And I'm not talking about cases where frozen samples were stored then retested again later with new techniques.

    You are saying that Fury FAILED the test by UKAD 18 months ago and they have only decided to do something about it now. That's bull****.
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      #22
      Originally posted by 1hourRun
      The facts suggest otherwise...but you are the same guy claiming that this is part of a conspiracy....hahahahaha! what an idiot. Hey man the Queen eats babies and the elite have bases on the moon in-case Ktullu awakes from his slumber in the Mariana trenches.
      The facts suggest to me that Fury didn't fail a drug test 18 months ago. Because if he had done he would be serving a ban from competition right now.
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        #23
        Originally posted by kafkod
        The facts suggest to me that Fury didn't fail a drug test 18 months ago. Because if he had done he would be serving a ban from competition right now.
        Thats the same thing you said when that 'tabloid' broke the story now we know its a fact...and I dont see a reason for UKAD to do this unless your conspiracy theory is true -- who would be so ****** to wait what??? almost two years to charge someone? risk that for what motive?
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          #24
          Originally posted by kafkod
          If Fury had failed a test 18 months ago he would have been punished in some way for it by now.

          Can you give me one example of an athlete who failed a drug test and was allowed to carry on competing for over a year without anybody even knowing about it? And I'm not talking about cases where frozen samples were stored then retested again later with new techniques.

          You are saying that Fury FAILED the test by UKAD 18 months ago and they have only decided to do something about it now. That's bull****.
          I'm saying he failed the test 18 months ago and nothing happened. The investigation is still going on. There are ways to delay the process just like Tony Thompson did for his positive test vs. Price. While those delays were ongoing he was still allowed to fight.

          UK Anti-Doping said in a statement the delay in Thompson’s failed drugs test being revealed was a consequence of the American’s response to the charge. “The athlete instigated a lengthy legal process, including filing an appeal which he failed to progress and which was ultimately dismissed,” the statement read.


          You don't know how far along in the investigation they are because they refuse to even acknowledge there is an investigation or that Fury failed a test. No one would've known about Tyson failing a drug test had it not been leaked from his camp. That's why Peter Fury said this:


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            #25
            Originally posted by 1hourRun
            Thats the same thing you said when that 'tabloid' broke the story now we know its a fact...and I dont see a reason for UKAD to do this unless your conspiracy theory is true -- who would be so ****** to wait what??? almost two years to charge someone? risk that for what motive?
            That's what I'm saying.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              I'm saying he failed the test 18 months ago and nothing happened. The investigation is still going on. There are ways to delay the process just like Tony Thompson did for his positive test vs. Price. While those delays were ongoing he was still allowed to fight.



              You don't know how far along in the investigation they are because they refuse to even acknowledge there is an investigation or that Fury failed a test. No one would've known about Tyson failing a drug test had it not been leaked from his camp. That's why Peter Fury said this:


              "UK Anti-Doping said in a statement the delay in Thompson’s failed drugs test being revealed was a consequence of the American’s response to the charge. “The athlete instigated a lengthy legal process, including filing an appeal which he failed to progress and which was ultimately dismissed,” the statement read."

              See the part of that quote I bolded. Then read the bolded part of the quote below, from an article in the Gaurdian written after an interview with UKAD about TT.



              "Thompson, 43, who insisted doping should be legalised before his first defeat of Price, has fought four times since; he was banned by the British Boxing Board of Control for 18 months but that was only enforceable in the UK. The ban expired in May 2015."

              Thompson was banned as soon as the positive test occurred, immediately after he fought Price, but only from fighting in the UK, because the BBBoC had no power to ban him from fighting anywhere else. The delay was in announcing it, because Thompson appealed against the decision. By the time the story broke, he had already served his ban.

              Dillian Whyte and Kid Galahad were both popped by UKAD tests. Like TT, they were both banned from competing immediately, and stayed banned while their appeals were being heard. The difference between them and TT was that they were licenced in the UK, by the BBBoC, so they couldn't fight anywhere after the BBBoC suspended their licences.
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                #27
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Dillian Whyte and Kid Galahad were both popped by UKAD tests. Like TT, they were both banned from competing immediately, and stayed banned while their appeals were being heard. The difference between them and TT was that they were licenced in the UK, by the BBBoC, so they couldn't fight anywhere after the BBBoC suspended their licences.
                Teper is also banned and just fought in Germany. Where was the last place Fury fought since he failed his drug test? You have no idea what's going on just like I have no idea what's going on because UKAD refuses to acknowledge if he failed a test or if they're even investigating him. Fury knows they can't speak on the subject until it's settled. That's why he's getting out ahead of the story. The leak came from his camp. The only reason we know Fury failed a drug test is because of the lawsuit he filed which states the samples in March contradict the samples taken in May. If not for a leak from camp Fury we wouldn't even know what happened. When UKAD finally speaks we'll know all the details. As it stand now, according to Fury, there was a failed test.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  "UK Anti-Doping said in a statement the delay in Thompson’s failed drugs test being revealed was a consequence of the American’s response to the charge. “The athlete instigated a lengthy legal process, including filing an appeal which he failed to progress and which was ultimately dismissed,” the statement read."

                  See the part of that quote I bolded. Then read the bolded part of the quote below, from an article in the Gaurdian written after an interview with UKAD about TT.



                  "Thompson, 43, who insisted doping should be legalised before his first defeat of Price, has fought four times since; he was banned by the British Boxing Board of Control for 18 months but that was only enforceable in the UK. The ban expired in May 2015."

                  Thompson was banned as soon as the positive test occurred, immediately after he fought Price, but only from fighting in the UK, because the BBBoC had no power to ban him from fighting anywhere else. The delay was in announcing it, because Thompson appealed against the decision. By the time the story broke, he had already served his ban.

                  Dillian Whyte and Kid Galahad were both popped by UKAD tests. Like TT, they were both banned from competing immediately, and stayed banned while their appeals were being heard. The difference between them and TT was that they were licenced in the UK, by the BBBoC, so they couldn't fight anywhere after the BBBoC suspended their licences.
                  Yo dis solve de problemz m8 - twit dis to da Furries, all dem has to say iz 'Yo dis iz discrima****on because da Yank was treated dfferently den I's! ' and we make us a couple quid - Brilliant!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                    Teper is also banned and just fought in Germany. Where was the last place Fury fought since he failed his drug test? You have no idea what's going on just like I have no idea what's going on because UKAD refuses to acknowledge if he failed a test or if they're even investigating him. Fury knows they can't speak on the subject until it's settled. That's why he's getting out ahead of the story. The leak came from his camp. The only reason we know Fury failed a drug test is because of the lawsuit he filed which states the samples in March contradict the samples taken in May. If not for a leak from camp Fury we wouldn't even know what happened. When UKAD finally speaks we'll know all the details. As it stand now, according to Fury, there was a failed test.
                    You are missing the point. Fury is licenced by the BBBoC, same as Galahad and Dillian, so if he'd failed a UKAD drug test he shouldn't be able to fight anywhere, not just in the UK.

                    According to Fury, he is suing UKAD because he was told he HADN'T failed a drug test and no action was going to be taken against him.

                    Teper is licenced in Germany and his ban only applies in the UK and in EBU sanctioned fights.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      You are missing the point. Fury is licenced by the BBBoC, same as Galahad and Dillian, so if he'd failed a UKAD drug test he shouldn't be able to fight anywhere, not just in the UK.

                      According to Fury, he is suing UKAD because he was told he HADN'T failed a drug test and no action was going to be taken against him.

                      Teper is licenced in Germany and his ban only applies in the UK and in EBU sanctioned fights.
                      The BDB was a member of the EBU until shortly before the last Teper fight. Which was his second fight under EBU member BDB since being "suspended". The whole point is none of us know what is going on until UKAD speaks. So far all the information we're getting is from Fury's side. I suggest they keep quiet and if UKAD hasn't suspended him or said he failed a test, why is he suing them for saying he failed a test?

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