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  • Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
    It's also Adonis' inactivity making the heart grow fonder, similar to Rigo. He was really left-hand happy in the first round, and I'm shocked at how slow he looked. It's great he got the win, but he looked a bit too vulnerable.
    He always looks better inside than outside. Stevenson needs to drop the boxing and embrace the brawling. It's when he looks best. At range he's a very limited and predictable fighter. When he takes it inside he's so much better. Great body shots, punch variety, he uses both hands, he's a totally different fighter.

    Making the adjustment to take the fight inside is the biggest reason he beat Fonfara. If he kept trying to fight at range he might have lost that fight.

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    • All of these fights don't mean **** until he fights Kovalev or Ward. Enjoy those checks but they ain't doing **** for your legacy.

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      • Originally posted by richardt View Post
        Obviously you didn't see the Hopkins fight because Hopkins didn't neutralize ANYTHING. Go look at the scorecards and connect percent. And if you think Kov cant back up Stevenson, you are delusional. Go watch some Stevenson fights, he backs up too and often. And Stevenson couldn't stop Fonfara who was just KO'd so lets not pretend he automatically KO's Kov.
        Hopkins kept Kovalev from even thinking of trying to bum rush him (as Kovalev has basically tried to do to everyone else he's ever fought) off of just short of 200 punches thrown; mind you a figure that was goosed up due to Hopkins choosing to just throw his kitchen sink in Rd 12.

        You exclude the 12th (or at least assume that Hopkins kept with what he was doing for the rest of the fight) and Hopkins kept Kovalev off of him with 175 punches, and his boxing brain, over the fight.

        You don't have to back up Kovalev to stunt his work; just as Chilemba showed, if Kovalev doesn't get the range to fire from where he likes, he'll either try to chase his way closer or turtle up when you get to the inside. (beyond that, don't try and belittle Fonfara; Joe Smith landed a massive shot on him early, but before that fight, the last time Fonfara had a KO loss was when he was a 20-year old middleweight, and even then was a TKO).

        Stevenson is significanty longer than Kovalev, he's more fluid in the ring than Kovalev is, AND he seems comfortable enough to lock in and drive shots to the body, unlike Kovalev.

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        • Stevenson has always been the most dangerous LHW.

          And Kovalev has always been the LHW most likely to give him problems.

          I always said that is a 50/50 fight.

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          • Fun fight!

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            • Originally posted by Mr. Stark View Post
              All of these fights don't mean **** until he fights Kovalev or Ward. Enjoy those checks but they ain't doing **** for your legacy.
              Kovalev wants no parts of Stevenson.

              He can't make the guy man up.

              You won't see Kovalev against somebody that can punch.

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              • Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                He always looks better inside than outside. Stevenson needs to drop the boxing and embrace the brawling. It's when he looks best. At range he's a very limited and predictable fighter. When he takes it inside he's so much better. Great body shots, punch variety, he uses both hands, he's a totally different fighter.

                Making the adjustment to take the fight inside is the biggest reason he beat Fonfara. If he kept trying to fight at range he might have lost that fight.
                Pretty much within a round of him starting to use the uppercut the fight was over. Williams was looking fine then Stevenson starts fighting inside looking for that uppercut and Willaims was looking swollen up hurting then he tried his own wide uppercut and Stevenson capitalized.

                His straight left is dangerous at any range, so if it is not working from range he does need to mix it up because there will be an opening for that straight left.

                Boxing 101 if that opening is not naturally there, make that opening happen. especially if that punch is a punch that erases the other guy.

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                • Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                  If Hopkins was such a bum, why did yall pick him to beat Kovalev lol? 95% of the Floyd/Ward fans on boxingscene picked Hopkins to beat him. I remember.
                  I wasn't picking Hopkins to beat Kovalev. Unlike 90% of American boxing fans who's ******ed, I'm not picking any boxer based on his race/ethnicity/nationality

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                  • Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                    Hopkins kept Kovalev from even thinking of trying to bum rush him (as Kovalev has basically tried to do to everyone else he's ever fought) off of just short of 200 punches thrown; mind you a figure that was goosed up due to Hopkins choosing to just throw his kitchen sink in Rd 12.

                    You exclude the 12th (or at least assume that Hopkins kept with what he was doing for the rest of the fight) and Hopkins kept Kovalev off of him with 175 punches, and his boxing brain, over the fight.

                    You don't have to back up Kovalev to stunt his work; just as Chilemba showed, if Kovalev doesn't get the range to fire from where he likes, he'll either try to chase his way closer or turtle up when you get to the inside. (beyond that, don't try and belittle Fonfara; Joe Smith landed a massive shot on him early, but before that fight, the last time Fonfara had a KO loss was when he was a 20-year old middleweight, and even then was a TKO).

                    Stevenson is significanty longer than Kovalev, he's more fluid in the ring than Kovalev is, AND he seems comfortable enough to lock in and drive shots to the body, unlike Kovalev.
                    Did you forget the fact that A) Stevenson has been knocked out which means he can be reached with hard punches, B) Kov DOMINATED Hopkins no matter how you twist it and Chilemba lost the fight. So all the twisting in the world isn't going to change those facts. And NONE of that beats the fact that if WILD, LOOPING punches could NAIL Adonis like Williams did, Kov will crack serious straight rights on Stevenson's chin. And who cares if Stevenson is longer. A) Reach is subjective and not a guarantee. Even as recent as tonight Frampton proved it and he was shorter whereas Kov is taller.
                    Last edited by richardt; 07-30-2016, 11:00 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by NEETzsche View Post
                      alvarez is no better than chilemba and people shat on him as a kovalev opponent

                      it's not really good enough if that's suppoed to be stevenson's big fight

                      yvon michel needs to stop messing around and make stevenson-beterbiev ASAP
                      Alvarez did fight and beat Chilemba though, so he is in fact, contrary to what you said, better than Chilemba.

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