Comments Thread For: Bradley Warns: Crawford Can Win, But Pacquiao is NO Postol

[bluzi]

Why are you guys talking about Pac taking the fight ? TC team said "we are not taking the Pac fight , **** him , we aren't taking that fight" and it was recently (last month) , they don't want it , not sure who wins (i believe that Pac is the better fighter but it should be close).
Hope it happens if Pac comes back , and not the vargas fight....

[Mr. Luthor]

Bwahahaha! Pac is an ATG. You are suggesting that 9 guys can go the distance with Crawford but Manny can't! I LOL @ that notion. You're letting the Manny who fought hurt and lost against Floyd fool you.

The funny thing is that it has also been proven that Manny out landed Floyd in the fight even if he clearly lost. Imagine what a 100% Pacquiao would have done.

Reading comprehension. I clearly said that Crawford's abilities are too much of a THREAT for Pacquiao's defensive liabilities not that Pacquiao couldn't possibly beat Crawford.

This statement disqualifies your entire post:

"The funny thing is that it has also been proven that Manny out landed Floyd in the fight even if he clearly lost. Imagine what a 100% Pacquiao would have done."

According to the organization that actually gets paid to produce punch stats...Mayweather threw six more punches than Pacquiao and landed 67 more. That's 148 to 81.

[Mr. Luthor]

You can't be ranked ahead of Floyd for beating Oscar @ 147, when Floyd already beat him @ 154. You can't be ranked ahead of Floyd for beating Mosely, when Floyd had already beaten him. You can't be ranked ahead of Floyd for beating Cotto at a CW. You can't be ranked ahead of Floyd when Marquez took your head off. You can't be ranked ahead of the guy that beat you, and he's still undefeated! Manny is great, but Floyd is better, and even Freddie Roach knows that!

Exactly. You can't be ranked ahead of the boxer, Mayweather, that beat you and is universally recognized as the best boxer of the era that you fought/fight in. Mayweather being the best of Pacquiao's era, by definition ranks him higher.

[fredhopple]

Paq ain't fighting Crawford ever too tough a fight to lose

What a fricking HOOT. Not about money for Paq. Then give Thurman or Spence $20 million aND MAKE THE FIGHT. Being a Senator in the Philippines is like being a dog catcher or a mail man in the USA. Manny needs cash and an easy win. That's why EASY DANNY GARCIA OR some other easy opponent gets the Paq fight. Not about money my aZZ.
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[Mr. Luthor]

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I guess we are just going to agree to disagree buddy. I said historical pound for pound not just pound for pound in the 80's, 90's, 2000 or whatever. Again like I said I can lay out all the criteria for it but this just isn't the time and place.

I'm curious as to what your criteria is to rank Manny above Floyd in the historical P4P list. Is it based off resumes? Performance in similar weight classes? Performance vs similar opponents? I could respect your opinion on it but you aren't providing any facts or details on this. You say this isn't the time or place and guess that's based off the massive amounts of word that have been typed throughout the years on this very topic. But please feel free to elaborate further. I'm all for friendly debate and agreeing to disagree if it comes to it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but the numbers do not lie.

Mayweather (49-0) (Only undefeated 4 or 5 Division Champion)
26-0 in world title fights
23-0 in Lineal title fights
24-0 against former/current world champs (22 opponents)
Took titles from 11 of those 22 former/current world champion opponents

Pacquiao (58-6-2) (Only 8 Division Champion)
15-3-2 in world title fights
21-5-2 against former/current world champs (20 opponents)
Took titles from 8 of those 20 former/current world champion opponents

Mayweather fought his 1st former/current world champion in his 18th career fight and 1st title fight so that means that 22 of his last 32 career fights was against a former/current world champion.

Pacquiao fought his 1st former/current world champion in his 25th career fight and 1st title fight so that means that 20 of his 42 career fights was against a former/current world champion.

[turnedup]

I used to think that before Mayweather vs. Pacquiao.

I know Bob felt slighted by Floyd, but Floyd and Bob still had a special relationship even beneath what they said to the public. Cotto on the other hand treated Arum like he didn't exist and let Penagracio do all the dirty work for him, I think that genuinely pissed bob off.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

too close to call, I got pac man winning this one but it wont be easy but how will it affect crawfords career if hes kod

[Mr. Luthor]

too close to call, I got pac man winning this one but it wont be easy but how will it affect crawfords career if hes kod

The odds of Pacquiao KO-ing Crawford are the same odds of Brook KO-ing Golovkin.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

The odds of Pacquiao KO-ing Crawford are the same odds of Brook KO-ing Golovkin.

ur right im thinking of the 2009 pac

[Boxing Goat]

Reading comprehension. I clearly said that Crawford's abilities are too much of a THREAT for Pacquiao's defensive liabilities not that Pacquiao couldn't possibly beat Crawford.

This statement disqualifies your entire post:

"The funny thing is that it has also been proven that Manny out landed Floyd in the fight even if he clearly lost. Imagine what a 100% Pacquiao would have done."

According to the organization that actually gets paid to produce punch stats...Mayweather threw six more punches than Pacquiao and landed 67 more. That's 148 to 81.

Nothing you say about what I say disqualifies me boy, watch your mouth.

I comprehend plenty. You are just drinking the Bud-Aid sauce. Pac is an ATG and has a lot more on his record than one good win over Lucas Mattysse.

Go search on this website proof that Manny landed more punches than Floyd.
There is a video slowing down every punch in the entire fight and it shows Manny landed more. The Compubox guys just can't keep that close of an eye on Manny's punches due to his hand speed. Come back after watching and we will talk then. Let's see if you still think I'm disqualified.