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  • #61
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Floyd's too cautious to try beat GGG. Floyd didn't want brook as well so fighting the toughest opponents at all times was never Floyd's ethos.

    But brook might test GGG. Maybe Floyd saw something in brook many havent
    There's no money in either fight for Floyd, that's why he's not taking it. 160 is a division to far imo for Floyd though.

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    • #62
      So another a WW? And a retired one at that!

      Well GGG did say WW Brook would be his toughest test.

      Speaks volumes!

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Metho_4u View Post
        There's no money in either fight for Floyd, that's why he's not taking it. 160 is a division to far imo for Floyd though.
        Not just a MW but an MW who would weigh 170 lbs. That would easily be a 20 lbs difference.

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        • #64
          if golovkin was at 147 naturally mayweather would DOMINATE golovkin at ANY point in his career

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          • #65
            Originally posted by BlackSoul View Post
            if golovkin was at 147 naturally mayweather would DOMINATE golovkin at ANY point in his career
            If golovkin were at 147 he'd have been dominated already by several in the division. Manny imo would ko him since he basically comes right at you. He's also not the counterpunchers Floyd, marquez, Bradley, etc is.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
              The thing is once he moves up, they won't be able to land that Mayweather money fight (won't happen by the way).

              If GGG moves up (I think they will) to 168 to get a title, they won't be back to 160.
              All the possible money fights with 147 and 154 stars would be lost.

              Wouldn't call Hagler a coward because he fought Duran and Leonard.
              You just contradicted yourself. The Mayweather fight is never going to happen. There are no big money fights for Golovkin from anybody at 147.


              So nothing is lost if it doesn't exist in the first place. It seems you're just looking for an excuse for him not to move up. Also, stop with the ridiculous Duran /Leonard comparisons. There is nobody on that level today at 147 or 154.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
                It is a size mismatch, but Mayweathers tenure at 130 is kinda irrelevant, by his mid 20s Floyd had outgrown 130 and 135 - Floyd filled out to become a smallish Welter who was able to have success at 154 due to his exceptional skill and adaptability.

                It's more like asking for Golovkin - Kovalev.
                Very true except when you said smallish welter. If Floyd is a smallish welter what is Pacquiao? Pacquiao is 5'5, Floyd is 5'8 with the longest reach in modern welterweight history among top fighters. Since boxers fight with their fists, which are attached to their arms, that to me is far more relevant than weight. If Floyd fought GGG, Floyd would have a two inch reach advantage lol! What does that tell you? GGG would have a 2 inch height advantage, Floyd would have a 2 inch reach advantage. I'd rather have the reach.

                Of course, Floyd always said he was a small welterweight because he weight in around 150 on fight night, but we know from the Pacquiao fight and him having to use IVs to make weight, supposedly (or something else...), plus refusing to get on the fight night scale, that he was probably lying the whole time. He always fought guys like Cotto and Maidana who supposedly weighed over 160 on fight night, and yet he looked bigger and stronger than them, so how did he only weigh 147?

                So let's not be fooled. Floyd is a very big welterweight. The ONLY thing that supports the argument hes not is his supposed 30 day weights, and fight night weights, but we know Floyd runs Showtime and can make the unofficial scales say anything he wants. That's why they're "unofficial." So I'm not going to rely on bullisht information coming from Floyd himself, who has a vested interest in spinning to his fans that he was always beating much bigger guys. Instead I'm going to rely on known facts like his incredible reach, the Pacquiao fight weight/IV/masking controversy, and the fact he always looked bigger and stronger than guys we know weighed 160 on fight night. Hell some featherweights weigh 147 on fight night these days. You really think Floyd on fight night, fighting Cotto and Maidana, was no bigger than a featherweight on fight night? We have to be smarter than that.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
                  How do you know I'm not giving Crawford credit?
                  Crawford showed a classfull P4P performance.

                  Doesn't change the fact that Postol is a stiff IMO.
                  He has been in only one world championship with Mathysse, this unification fight never was that big to me.

                  You act like Crawford is already fighting at 147.

                  Crawford hasn't taking that much of risks IMO beating a blown up Gamboa and outgrowing 135.
                  Dude is a SMW on fight night and already was at 135.

                  We'll see if he's dominant at 147.
                  I don't think he will, but I hope he proves me wrong, I prefer his style than Thurman, Porter or Garcia's style.
                  SMW on fight night? Do you actually know what a SMW is?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                    Very true except when you said smallish welter. If Floyd is a smallish welter what is Pacquiao? Pacquiao is 5'5, Floyd is 5'8 with the longest reach in modern welterweight history among top fighters. Since boxers fight with their fists, which are attached to their arms, that to me is far more relevant than weight. If Floyd fought GGG, Floyd would have a two inch reach advantage lol! What does that tell you? GGG would have a 2 inch height advantage, Floyd would have a 2 inch reach advantage. I'd rather have the reach.

                    Of course, Floyd always said he was a small welterweight because he weight in around 150 on fight night, but we know from the Pacquiao fight and him having to use IVs to make weight, supposedly (or something else...), plus refusing to get on the fight night scale, that he was probably lying the whole time. He always fought guys like Cotto and Maidana who supposedly weighed over 160 on fight night, and yet he looked bigger and stronger than them, so how did he only weigh 147?

                    So let's not be fooled. Floyd is a very big welterweight. The ONLY thing that supports the argument hes not is his supposed 30 day weights, and fight night weights, but we know Floyd runs Showtime and can make the unofficial scales say anything he wants. That's why they're "unofficial." So I'm not going to rely on bullisht information coming from Floyd himself, who has a vested interest in spinning to his fans that he was always beating much bigger guys. Instead I'm going to rely on known facts like his incredible reach, the Pacquiao fight weight/IV/masking controversy, and the fact he always looked bigger and stronger than guys we know weighed 160 on fight night. Hell some featherweights weigh 147 on fight night these days. You really think Floyd on fight night, fighting Cotto and Maidana, was no bigger than a featherweight on fight night? We have to be smarter than that.
                    Pac is more of a JWW who could blow up a bit for WW/JMW. Floyd? - nah... I'm sticking to my guns. Guy's a natural Welter - a little on the small side. IV gate? No comment. And yeah... OK you're allowed to doubt the information coming out of Showtime or Floyds camp if you like but in the absence of anything else then you're just kinda making it up, aren't you? I'm not a particular fan of Floyd but I can't see any good reason to try to belittle his achievements either.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by fredhopple View Post
                      Hey GGG why not call out Ward or Kovie or Gilberto? Why pick on the smaller guys like Floyd and Kell Brook and Canelo? Heck Fight Groves. Typical communist picking on the small ones. GGG has yet to beat a real name opponent with size that fights back.
                      Stop it! We all already know that Canelo is not a small guy.

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