Comments Thread For: Roach: Brook Has NO Shot To Beat Gennady Golovkin

[JUNIABOY]

Top 10 welterweight longer than all those guys with only 1 legit win. I'm sorry bro but you need to relax. Idc if none of them called him out, they all have a great shot at beating him if they fight. That's my point. And a welterweight vs GGG is a fight I can't see the welterweight winning. Now for Golovkin, yeah, he's getting ducked at 160. Nelo ducked him and Jacobs ain't in no rush to fight. Nobody cares though cuz GGG acted funny when it came to ward.

I don't want to hear about the Ward thing with GGG. That potential bout was blocked as soon as Ward signed that HBO contract. Back to GGG/Brook. You know, a lot of people didn't care much for Sugar Ray Leonard unretiring to fight the #1 p4p boxer in the world Hagler at 160. That fight surprised a lot of people. This one might too. And no one ever brings up that another WW Duran fought Hagler at 160 as well.

Brook signed that contract in 2 days. That must mean he wants the fight...for whatever reason(s) he wants the fight, he signed...Eubank didn't want to sign...Canelo didn't even want to deal...how many months was GGG sitting on the shelf waiting for those 2 to sign? And throwing in the other part of the situation where GGG was running out of viable opponents for a Sept 10 bout (a hard date set by HBO when it seemed like the GGG/Eubank Jr fight was all but a done deal). Lack of willing opponents is the reason we are getting the mismatch. You're not a boxing fan if you don't call this a mismatch (or stay busy fight, or money grab, or whatever). On paper though, it's a lot closer fight than when Canelo fought lightweight Amir Khan...glass-jaw Khan nearly lost to another lightweight Algieri (who was only a WW because his previous match was against Pac at WW at a catchweight)...glass-jaw Khan was getting KO'ed by lightweights before Canelo did it. Brook is a title-holder & a higher quality boxer (a level of skill that GGG has not faced yet) than Khan who barely qualified as a WW...& to many, Brook is a higher quality boxer than Eubank. The only similarity between the 2 mismatches was that a MW was fighting a WW. The differences are enormous.

Fans should be madder at Canelo & Eubank for not being serious about fighting GGG right now. Those 2 is the reason we're getting GGG/Brook. At some point, we have to acknowledge that Brook was among the few quality boxers who was willing to fight GGG right now. And the fact that GGG/Brook sold out in 11 minutes means that the UK has been salivating to watch GGG fight, whoever it was. This is exposure for GGG, a good payday, & a chance to show his skills against a world-level talent. Mismatch on paper, sure. But we can't exclude all the reasons why it's come to this. Direct your anger where it belongs.

[j.one]

Roach hasn't correctly predicted an outcome of a fight in over 10 years, maybe Brook does have a shot lmao.

[Sweet_Science2]

You do realize that they had to settle for Kell Brook right? This isn't like Canelo "choosing" to fight Amir Khan as a voluntary title defense. Canelo's team jerked GGG's team around for weeks until they announced a fight with Liam Smith. The Eubanks did the same thing. Nobody wanted to fight GGG in September. With all the viable options running out, they were lucky to get Brook. Loeffler is even quoted at the press conference that it was unfortunate they were unable to get the DeGale fight. Which means they even went after the top 168 guy & was turned down. You're nothing but a hater who won't take into account the situation. Everyone ducked GGG for a September fight. HBO set a hard date of September 10. If you can't even admit that all the viable fighters for this date wasn't willing to fight him, then you're a lost cause.

Get your f@ggot dyck riding ass outta here. Lara been calling his pussie ass out after Canelo vacated. Loeffler and pussie g to this day still haven't said shyt about fighting Lara. Cut that shyt out no viable opponent wanted to fight him. Lara did. You are cool with pussie g fighting a WW now? I knew your f@ggot ass was a dyck rider but damn

[Sweet_Science2]

What makes this assumption hilarious is that neither Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia, or Shawn Porter called out Kell Brook. Brook has been a top-10 WW longer than any of those guys. But when pressed to name their next opponent, not a single one would say Brook's name. If neither of you are willing to admit that GGG was ducked to the point that there was no viable options until Brook signed, then you're both a lost cause. The bout being a mismatch doesn't dispel the fact that the 5-6 boxers ahead of Brook in GGG's pecking order all turned him down.

Keith Thurman did and so did Spence Jr. He wanted nothing to do with neither. And Lara been calling pussie g's bluff punk. Instead of fighting Lara at 160 his pussiefied ass went 7 pounds lower and is fighting Brook like the true bytch he is.

[JUNIABOY]

Get your f@ggot dyck riding ass outta here. Lara been calling his pussie ass out after Canelo vacated. Loeffler and pussie g to this day still haven't said shyt about fighting Lara. Cut that shyt out no viable opponent wanted to fight him. Lara did. You are cool with pussie g fighting a WW now? I knew your f@ggot ass was a dyck rider but damn

You can't get a boxing match through twitter...no matter how much you want to believe it. Did you not see the DiBella interview? You do realize that Lara's own manager said they never formally contacted K2 to make the fight, right? Kell Brook is a more viable opponent than Lara because Brook has a bigger fanbase, & GGG is making his debut in the UK. Mind you, the tickets sold out in 11 minutes. If that's not an indicator of how much money this event could generate, then nothing's an indicator. GGG/Brook is a mismatch. But the anger should be directed at those who ducked GGG, resulting in the mismatch. Acknowledge it's a mismatch. And acknowledge the situation which resulted in a mismatch. I know it's a hot summer, but you gotta keep your cool.

[JUNIABOY]

Keith Thurman did and so did Spence Jr. He wanted nothing to do with neither. And Lara been calling pussie g's bluff punk. Instead of fighting Lara at 160 his pussiefied ass went 7 pounds lower and is fighting Brook like the true bytch he is.

Spence truly is the only one who's pursuing Kell Brook's title. But he's doing it the normal way: by becoming his mandatory. What has Lara done to earn a shot at GGG? Fight a couple of journeymen north of 36-years-old?! Complain to his two dozen fans?!

Acknowledge the situation. Canelo ducked GGG after more than a month of negotiations. The Eubanks slept on the deadline when the fight seemed all but set (a hard date & a venue was set). If Kell Brook is willing to take a dangerous fight on short notice without the benefit of a full camp, more power to him. You can't fault GGG for others screwing him over & eventually ducking him. Call it a mismatch. Call it a money grab. Call it a stay-busy fight. Whatever. But what other viable options were there that would have been willing to fight GGG in September? Nobody is ever going to see GGG's career parallels to Hagler...how come no one points out that he fought two (2) WW's while in his prime, hmm? Acknowledge the situation.

[Sweet_Science2]

Spence truly is the only one who's pursuing Kell Brook's title. But he's doing it the normal way: by becoming his mandatory. What has Lara done to earn a shot at GGG? Fight a couple of journeymen north of 36-years-old?! Complain to his two dozen fans?!

Acknowledge the situation. Canelo ducked GGG after more than a month of negotiations. The Eubanks slept on the deadline when the fight seemed all but set (a hard date & a venue was set). If Kell Brook is willing to take a dangerous fight on short notice without the benefit of a full camp, more power to him. You can't fault GGG for others screwing him over & eventually ducking him. Call it a mismatch. Call it a money grab. Call it a stay-busy fight. Whatever. But what other viable options were there that would have been willing to fight GGG in September? Nobody is ever going to see GGG's career parallels to Hagler...how come no one points out that he fought two (2) WW's while in his prime, hmm? Acknowledge the situation.

What is Lara done? What the fuuck has Kell Brook done? You ******* always bring that bull shyt up. First it was pussie g wants all the belts. Now he is fighting a fuucking WW. He could have EASILY called Laras bluff or not. You dudes are bytches not fans period.

[Sweet_Science2]

You can't get a boxing match through twitter...no matter how much you want to believe it. Did you not see the DiBella interview? You do realize that Lara's own manager said they never formally contacted K2 to make the fight, right? Kell Brook is a more viable opponent than Lara because Brook has a bigger fanbase, & GGG is making his debut in the UK. Mind you, the tickets sold out in 11 minutes. If that's not an indicator of how much money this event could generate, then nothing's an indicator. GGG/Brook is a mismatch. But the anger should be directed at those who ducked GGG, resulting in the mismatch. Acknowledge it's a mismatch. And acknowledge the situation which resulted in a mismatch. I know it's a hot summer, but you gotta keep your cool.

Lara called pussie g out after his fight and a few days later not on Twitter. And I thought the A side makes the contract and dictates the term? I.e. Mayweather, Canelo, Pac, etc... So how in the fuuck can Lara send pussie g the contract when pussie g is the A side.

Oh and here is Lara calling out pussie g before he had this bull shyt fight signed when no one "supposedly" wanted to fight his punk ass.

Link One NOT Twitter http://www.boxingscene.com/lara-cane...ll-160--104790


Link Two- Calling pussie g out again STILL no repsonse- http://www.boxingscene.com/lara-golo...-fight--104930

So why didn't pussie g respond when Canelo was clearly out of the picture?????

[JUNIABOY]

What is Lara done? What the fuuck has Kell Brook done? You ******* always bring that bull shyt up. First it was pussie g wants all the belts. Now he is fighting a fuucking WW. He could have EASILY called Laras bluff or not. You dudes are bytches not fans period.

Brook was in the right place at the right time. And Hearn was more than willing to feed the MW champion his WW champion. I'm not going to fault Brook for taking the money here since he would make more money with GGG than against Vargas, & he still retains his WW title...win-win. A negotiation for a GGG/Lara bout would take a while because not only will there be a problem on negotiating the purse split, but there is also a tv contract dispute to get over. That would have taken weeks to hammer out. Remember now: September 10 at The O2 Arena was already set for GGG. If Lara's team was going to accept that, not factoring in a lengthy negotiation process, Lara would have about 7-8 weeks of camp. You need to throw your insults at the mirror. Showtime vs HBO, Lara brings no fiscal advantages in London, & a short camp. You factor all those things in, then it becomes extremely evident that Erislandy Lara was not a viable option. It's like I said, the mismatch is a result of lack of viable options.

[JUNIABOY]

Lara called pussie g out after his fight and a few days later not on Twitter. And I thought the A side makes the contract and dictates the term? I.e. Mayweather, Canelo, Pac, etc... So how in the fuuck can Lara send pussie g the contract when pussie g is the A side.

Oh and here is Lara calling out pussie g before he had this bull shyt fight signed when no one "supposedly" wanted to fight his punk ass.

Link One NOT Twitter http://www.boxingscene.com/lara-cane...ll-160--104790

Link Two- Calling pussie g out again STILL no repsonse- http://www.boxingscene.com/lara-golo...-fight--104930

So why didn't pussie g respond when Canelo was clearly out of the picture?????

Okay. Now look at the timeline:

~Canelo's & GGG's teams go into negotiations.
~Canelo vacates the WBC title.
~Canelo goes to court.
~Canelo & GGG's teams return to negotiations.
~Canelo's team announces Liam Smith.
~GGG's team pursues the next best option, Saunders, who says no.
~GGG's team pursue the next best option, Eubank Jr.
~HBO sets a hard date of Sept 10 in London at the O2 Arena when the GGG/Eubank bout seemed all but assured.
~Hearn tells Loeffler that Eubank Jr is probably not going to sign & asks if they would like Kell Brook in London. Gets approval.
~GGG/Brook fight is announced.

Now, looking at that timeline, how much space is in there for Lara? Canelo held GGG's team on hold for weeks. Then the Eubanks did the same thing in a less than honorable manner. And as a long shot, Hearn offered the Eubank contract to Brook, who signed. GGG's viable options weren't there. Eubank Jr. would have been a nice bout the boxing fans could get behind. But Eubank ducked, just like every other 160 fighter before him. Even though GGG/Brook is a mismatch, as a boxing fan I understand why it's come to this. In a sense, one could say that K2 is trying to force GGG into the UK market because there are a few British boxers they would like to take. By breaking into that market now, they can improve their brand & their chances of securing other quality British boxers. Yes, boxing politics sucks. But let's not beat a dead horse. Let's take Errol Spence as an example. Errol Spence could go on a social media campaign to shame Brook into fighting him...or he can do it the normal way: become his mandatory. I think Spence chose right.